I saw the Velocity posts here but was wondering if anyone has tried alternative mods on their F-Pace? I searched and didn't see a mention of others on here but I am looking at a couple (out of many) and although I am pretty advanced with modding phones/computers, etc. Cars is a new territory and not sure what to think or believe about the few mod methods out there.

Here's a few I found that seem different from eachother and different from Velocity in function and price.

https://www.chipyourcar.com/product/...ormance-chips/
https://www.racechip.us/shop/jaguar/...-332lb-ft.html
https://www.oetuning.com/products/ja...aguar-f-pace-s

Anyone have thoughts or experience with any of these specifically or methods these use?

Some questions may be:

Do they all work but 'packaged' differently or do you really get what you pay for in this case?
Are some invisible (undetectable that something was used before put back to stock) to dealers and some not?
Do some wners wait until their warranty is over? Are there any risks on vehicle? Etc...

Thank you,

 

1. Warranty from the authorised dealer will be void if you Tune/ modify ECU
2. I'm very tempted to tune on mine after the warranty period expires; however I was warned by a Jaguar specialist repair workshop (not the dealer) against it. These guys have been repairing jaguars for 20+ years and said for the extra 10-20% hp and torque, it's not worthwhile for the risk you introduce to your engine life and all other electronics.

 

Looks like this thread will run and run. A stage1 ECU remap transforms the F-Type. It's fast, exhilarating, fun, and laugh-out-loud enjoyable. I understand that the tune is well within the limits of the engine and transmission. I wouldn't listen to any pessimistic comments unless they have personal experience of failures caused by an ECU remap.
It's all about risk & REWARD.
YOLO.

 

1. That's not true. Warranty is never voided, but may not honor a repair that is proven to be attributed to a modification. Fact: well known guy on the F Type side got a new engine under warranty and had VAP Tune.
2. VAP Tune is about 20-25% which is considerable. While there is certainly inherent risk with any engine modification, there are many guys who have 30 - 40K trouble-free miles after tunes, some under warranty, some not.
I can't speak to the ones you listed, but my advice is to go with one that has vast experience with Jaguar, not just any generic tune. Not a fan of RaceChip as it works differently to "trick" a couple of inputs, and not actually change the mapping where many more variables exist. RaceChip claims to be invisible once removed, but I'd bet there would be stored parameters that could point to a modification. Tuning will always leave a code. I got a tune for my F Type from VAP, but the wife won't let me tune her F Pace. Yet.

 

These race chips are a scam. All they do is make the engine think its colder outside so it changes the fuel mapping. Or the change the pedal position sensor reading or other sensor outputs to trick the eco into changing the engine parameters to match the false inputs. But its not helping as much as it hurts. Talk to Alexjag about tuning

 

The new processes dealers have to go through to get a new engine under warranty have tightened. I had one denied due to tune in it. There is a code which explicitly states A/M tune installed. That is one of the first questions asked. It could've fallen through the cracks but as of recently, its high on their radar list for approval/denial.

 

I have no doubt that dealers and/or manufacturers will make every attempt to deny a warranty if they can. Unhinged from the F Type threads had one replaced like 6 months ago though and his dealer has always known about his tune. So it is possible, but the risk is high.

 

I would go yo the Jaguar website and do a "Build My Car" comparison between the two models. Are there differences in standard wheel & tire size, brake size, interior trim & other options ? By the time you add options to the P450 that are standard on the R, the price differential may not be $20k. How much to do a full tune & pulley, and do you want to give up the warranty coverage or are you planning on waiting 5 years to do the tune ?

If you don't care about the options differences, warranty coverage and would rather have a tuned RWD P450 that model does look quite attractive.

 

as stated avoid the tunes that trick sensors - how do i do that i hear you ask. these tunes are more than likely generic, and can be done mobile or out of someones shed.
If you go for a proper tune it should be a proper tune with time on a rolling road to monitor the adjustments being made and customized for your motor.
All tunes will be visible - the software itself will have a checksum, even if you do swap back to the original, as mentioned there will be history flagged somewhere.
Are they safe? the ones customized to your car will be* - the software from Jag is super safe, it allows the motor to be used anywhere with any low grade of fuel*, so if you get a tune be sure to always use the best fuel you can and keep on top of the servicing - do not do the long life service, if you drive it like you stole it i would be doing an oil service every 5K. A reputable tuner will advise, after all they do not want the engine going bad either as that will tarnish their name.

hopefully that gives you something to go on.

* within reason