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Old 09-15-2015, 09:11 PM
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The F-Pace is beautiful and powerful, but it only has a 16.6 gal fuel tank.


Perhaps it's acceptable in a sports car, but I need range in an SUV when my hunting camp is 400 miles away.


Maybe it's adequate for the diesel, but when your flagship has 380 hp (and more on the way), WTF?
 
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Old 09-16-2015, 07:29 AM
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This is hardly a big deal for the 99%. Very few bladders can hold for 7-8 hours. Moreover, that's the same engine as in the V6S F-Type, which will easily achieve 25 mpg (Gov rating is 28 mpg, highway), which gives you a 400 mi+ range for highway cruising.
 
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With all due respect, you live and work in the District of Criminals. Those of us in Flyover Country need range.
 
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Old 09-19-2015, 07:52 PM
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No Kodiak is right...step on it a bit and these cars get 18 MPG....with a tank that small your average range will be 275....LAME!!!

I don't know what it is about British cars but their gas tank volume is ridiculous!

He was also right about the District of Criminals, just sayin'....
 
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Old 09-20-2015, 09:26 AM
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For the record, my D of C reference was not meant as a slam on Foosh. I enjoy his posts.
 
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Old 09-25-2015, 02:19 AM
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Re small capacity on Brit cars, I guess we have different usage patterns to our U.S. Brothers, we don't really use our top cars, we just have them to impress and howl away from petrol stations making as much noise as poss, with fuel at over $10 a gallon we generally go for a splash and dash approach, plus we can only dream of driving long distances without hitting the sea, perhaps London to Edinburgh but then who wants to sit on the m1 or m6 for hours. Re hunting lodge; How many salmon or elk can you fit in the trunk/ boot of an F?
 
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:15 PM
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Nothing big killed goes inside. Always on top. We're hunters, not Mafia dons.
 
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Old 10-15-2015, 03:13 PM
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Thumbs up Stiffs on top.

Got it, like top gear on the roof of the Camaro?
 
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Old 10-16-2015, 06:52 PM
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Sort of. Although I'd like to think our weigth distribution talents are better. Remember, anything that fits in a cooler can go inside. Everything else goes on top.


Black powder starts this weekend. Rifles next weekend. Shotguns the 3rd weekend in November in the Southern Tier.
 
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Only 14% of the US public have a hunting license (and some are kids or older who don't hunt regularly) and the geographic concentration tends to be away from large cities and nearby suburbs. The F-Pace isn't intended for hunters. It's intended to compete for the same people who would consider buying a Porsche Macan--upscale suburban types who take a briefcase to work and support PETA. I'm generalizing, of course. There are exceptions, but I think you get my point.
 
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:26 AM
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Congratulations on completely missing the point.

My concern is about the small gas tank and corresponding lack of range. The Macan S is smaller than the F-Pace and has EPA estimates of 17 city/23 hwy/19 combined.

The Macan has a 19.8 gal fuel tank vs. 16.6 for the F-Pace.

I'm also a member of PETA. People Eating Tasty Animals.
 
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:33 AM
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Only 14% of the US public have a hunting license (and some are kids or older who don't hunt regularly) and the geographic concentration tends to be away from large cities and nearby suburbs. The F-Pace isn't intended for hunters. It's intended to compete for the same people who would consider buying a Porsche Macan--upscale suburban types who take a briefcase to work and support PETA. I'm generalizing, of course. There are exceptions, but I think you get my point.
You've spoilt my vision of how the FPace performs at work in the U.S. I had envisioned something as below, I particularly like the one with the built in roof rack and Bar-B-Q. Not sure what the original colour would have been, perhaps Jaguar Gunmetal Grey/Gray. Lol.
 
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kodiak
With all due respect, you live and work in the District of Criminals. Those of us in Flyover Country need range.
With all due respect, does USA not have regularly placed petrol stations (or is it gas stations?)?! Do you actually need 400miles range, other than the annoyance factor of having to stop?

I guess here in the UK we dont actually need that much range as we are so tiny, can drive the whole length or breadth in half a day (probably less if you arent worried about the police)!
 
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Old 11-10-2015, 05:53 PM
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It is mostly about convenience, although there are many places in the US that are mostly empty, so range is important.

My hunting camp is 10 miles from the Canadian border in upstate New York. It is not unusual for gas (petrol) stations to be 60 miles apart. Plus, the gasoline is much cheaper in Vermont, so it's nice to get in and out of NY without having to refuel.

It's even worse in North Dakota and southwest Texas, where my work often takes me.

I hadn't noticed before, but it seems to be a trend for Jaguar to have smaller fuel tanks than in the past. The current XJ has a capacity of 21.7 gallons. My late beloved 2000 XJ8 had over 23 gallons.

I know, first world problems.
 
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:01 PM
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In SoCal, the distance between Barstow and Needles is about 140 miles in the desert. Only two rest stops and no gas stations between the two cities.
I'm sure others from Texas to Montana have much further distances to go between gas stations.
 
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Maybe he just needs the Toyota FJ for mileage, reliability and deer prop. More class for a hunter than a Jag.
 
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jagfixer
Maybe he just needs the Toyota FJ for mileage, reliability and deer prop. More class for a hunter than a Jag.

We had a 2006 Toyota FJ, which had a 19 gallon tank and the aerodynamics of a brick. The best it ever did in highway cruising at 70 mph was 15-16 mpg, w/ about a 275-300 mile range.

It was also discontinued in 2014.
 
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I don't think the F-Pace was really intended to "go bush" as we say down here, so extended fuel range was probably not a consideration in the design brief.

The serious off-roaders from Land Rover have big tanks in them; Discovery 4 / LR4 for example has 21.5 US gallons, and there are long range tanks available from a number of suppliers in the aftermarket which add another 29 US gallons or so on top of that.

That's the sort of range you have in a serious off-roader.
 
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:42 AM
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Land Rover can handle 8000lb. trailer, Lexus cannot. I would never take my Jaguar off-road unless they made a real off-road vehicle, but then that is why I have Land Rover in the stable for pulling, off-road, a work truck. My Jags are always pampered and clean and stayed indoors until I take them out. With either, fuel mileage is not of a concern. The new diesel engined cars may have fuel mileage.
 
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:21 PM
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I guess it all depends on what kind of fuel economy it gets; a 400 or so mile range on the S would be nice, I have to fill up my XF every 275 miles which is kind of annoying.
 


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