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Old 12-31-2017 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul_59
Alternatively if you choose to forgo buying new you can have a V8 RWD R coupe for the same money, in my case 9000 miles from new and one year warranty left.
And buy the s..t from the previous owner,it's a choice!
 
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Old 12-31-2017 | 01:28 PM
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In ireland the V6 is €25,000 more than the 2.0 even in same spec, so your paying the difference for exhaust noise and not much difference in power and handling, outrageous , also the 2.0 co2 emissions tax is €570 per annum to the V6 at €1500
 
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Old 12-31-2017 | 02:34 PM
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In ireland the V6 is €25,000 more than the 2.0 even in same spec, so your paying the difference for exhaust noise and not much difference in power and handling, outrageous , also the 2.0 co2 emissions tax is €570 per annum to the V6 at €1500
The power on the V6 is much more useable as it comes on at much lower rpm. At a 25,000 EUR differential they Offer comparable values. At an $8000 differential, the I4 I don’t think is worth considering.
 
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Old 12-31-2017 | 03:11 PM
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The power on the V6 is much more useable as it comes on at much lower rpm. At a 25,000 EUR differential they Offer comparable values. At an $8000 differential, the I4 I don’t think is worth considering.
In the Uk think the difference is around £4,000 to £6,000 , if it was the case here like the US or Uk the V6 would be the option, there are very few F-types in ireland here a few and prices as you can see the 3.0 is expensive for a used one

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/jaguar/f-type
 
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Old 12-31-2017 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
4. Stomping on the throttle in normal mode offers a wimpy time delayed throttle response typical of old fashioned automatics. That effect is minimized in dynamic mode, but even then the turbo-lag is disappointing. Any sense of power doesn't kick in until well over 4000 rpm. My MINI would put it to shame from the light.
You are being overly uncritical of it.

Here is my experiences with it in XE:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...engine-189857/
 
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Old 12-31-2017 | 04:27 PM
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I can understand the "Dynamic" label if they have enabled access to those components in that model (suspension, steering, quicker shifting, etc) but have to ask...Do they REALLY call it an "R"? I can't reconcile the R term with... a 4-banger...EVER.

That's like saying that a Porsche 914 is a Drag Car... utterly ridiculous
 
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Old 12-31-2017 | 05:02 PM
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I can understand the "Dynamic" label if they have enabled access to those components in that model (suspension, steering, quicker shifting, etc) but have to ask...Do they REALLY call it an "R"? I can't reconcile the R term with... a 4-banger...EVER.

That's like saying that a Porsche 914 is a Drag Car... utterly ridiculous
Seems to be used in other models to in badging form , like the XE Rsport badging
 
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Old 12-31-2017 | 05:24 PM
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Old 12-31-2017 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SinF
You are being overly uncritical of it.

Here is my experiences with it in XE:
Perhaps so. I was really trying to be open-minded. That said, it was still disappointing.
 
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Old 12-31-2017 | 06:34 PM
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Perhaps so. I was really trying to be open-minded. That said, it was still disappointing.
Yes, that was disappointing, but it isnt the same tune that the F-type uses.

Jaguar with its fiendishly complex identifiers have delivered the igenium 4 potter in 3 tunes rather than 2. In the XE, the 20T 147KW replaces the ecoboost 140KW, then the 25T 184KW replaces the ecoboost 177KW. The new 30T is 221KW, and had no previous equivalent, because the 35T was the 240KW supercharged 6.

The F type uses the 221KW engine, which is about 36KW (around 50hp) more powerful than the car you drove (or was that SinF? I'm getting confused...)

We can blame Jaguar for all of that confusion. Really they should have done away with the 147KW tune and just had the 2 4 potters in the XE.
 

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Old 12-31-2017 | 07:28 PM
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The F type uses the 221KW engine, which is about 36KW (around 50hp) more powerful than the car you drove (or was that SinF? I'm getting confused...)
SinF drove the XE. I drove the F-Type.
 
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Old 01-14-2018 | 01:37 AM
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Not sure if this has been posted before, so apologies if so.
 
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Old 01-14-2018 | 06:51 AM
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I've had my 4 banger convertible for a month down here in South Florida. Being a 78 year old Geezer, it's plenty powerful. I don't love the square uni-exhaust. In my day, 50's & 60's, dual exhausts were the mark of a great car . Even my 57 Plymouth was cool. 0-60 was measured in hours. The girls didn't know or care.
 
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Old 01-17-2018 | 08:49 AM
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@Unhingd.
I am on the verge of buying a 4 cylinder, for many reasons. The main reason is that we have a CO2 tax that makes a V6 USD35.000 more expensive as a 2L. I also have a LR3 without a DPF. For this the roadtax goes up with 15% pa as of 2019, from USD3500 to USD4000 [ yes 4 THOUSAND per year...]. The CO2 tax will skyrocket on new cars as of 2019. A normal 1.4TSI Golf will go up USD12.000 in price due to this change. Looking at htis development, I expect the roadtax to be linked to CO2 emissions, another reason not to go for a V6... I drove bothe engines. The V6 I drove had a delay in gearchange with the flippers, not in auto. This might be an issue with the car, software problem or such. The 4-cylinder has a skinnier sound. It first made me think of an escort with a rust whole in the damper. But in slightly higher revs its doesn't sound bad at all. It has less body in the lower tones, that all. Driving I find the 4-cylinder picking up nicely from low revs. This should be as it has max torque from 1500rpm straight up to 4500rpm. The V6 only gets max
torque around 3500rpm... So no , its not out of 'free choice' I get a 2 liter, I would love to buy a V8. But then I'd have to immigrate to a country with another tax system first...

 

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Old 01-17-2018 | 05:40 PM
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@Unhingd.
I am on the verge of buying a 4 cylinder, for many reasons. The main reason is that we have a CO2 tax that makes a V6 USD35.000 more expensive as a 2L. I also have a LR3 without a DPF. For this the roadtax goes up with 15% pa as of 2019, from USD3500 to USD4000 [ yes 4 THOUSAND per year...]. The CO2 tax will skyrocket on new cars as of 2019. A normal 1.4TSI Golf will go up USD12.000 in price due to this change. Looking at htis development, I expect the roadtax to be linked to CO2 emissions, another reason not to go for a V6... I drove bothe engines. The V6 I drove had a delay in gearchange with the flippers, not in auto. This might be an issue with the car, software problem or such. The 4-cylinder has a skinnier sound. It first made me think of an escort with a rust whole in the damper. But in slightly higher revs its doesn't sound bad at all. It has less body in the lower tones, that all. Driving I find the 4-cylinder picking up nicely from low revs. This should be as it has max torque from 1500rpm straight up to 4500rpm. The V6 only gets max
torque around 3500rpm... So no , its not out of 'free choice' I get a 2 liter, I would love to buy a V8. But then I'd have to immigrate to a country with another tax system first...

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Understood. The differential price here in the US does not make the 2.0 look like a good value. For those markets where the differential is substantial, the 2.0 does appear to be a viable choice.
 
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Old 01-20-2018 | 05:32 PM
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I recently bought a 2.0 coupe, and honestly am quite happy with it, but I'm a bit on the older side also! It's probably the fastest car I've owned. The last sports car I had was a Porsche Boxster 2.7, when I lived in Honolulu - nothing like a convertible in Hawaii! The F-type is quite a bit quicker/faster, it doesn't quite sound as good as the flat-6 (especially with the top down) but sounds decent enough to me. My wife has a 2.0 XE that we enjoy, and after driving that it made me consider the F-type 2.0 (previously I had been considering a new Cayman). Anyway, you can count me as a happy F type 2.0 owner!
 
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Old 01-20-2018 | 05:43 PM
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@Crash 88.
It may sound silly, but I never considered a Cayman [ Gayman as my mother pronounced it, 78yrs a bit deaf, not a clue about cars.. ] as a alternative to an F-Type, untill I read a comparitive test... So I started to configure Cayman S,
with the same details [ cruise control is an option..] as the F-Type I ordered, and came out at nearlt twice the price ! So no compitition to fear...
 

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Old 01-20-2018 | 05:45 PM
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I recently bought a 2.0 coupe, and honestly am quite happy with it, but I'm a bit on the older side also! It's probably the fastest car I've owned. The last sports car I had was a Porsche Boxster 2.7, when I lived in Honolulu - nothing like a convertible in Hawaii! The F-type is quite a bit quicker/faster, it doesn't quite sound as good as the flat-6 (especially with the top down) but sounds decent enough to me. My wife has a 2.0 XE that we enjoy, and after driving that it made me consider the F-type 2.0 (previously I had been considering a new Cayman). Anyway, you can count me as a happy F type 2.0 owner!
Love to see a few pictures of your new car if you can upload some.
 
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Old 01-21-2018 | 03:01 PM
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Here's a couple of pics. After looking at some of the cars here, my only semi-regret is not getting 19" or 20" rims!
 
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Looks great, very elegant, classy and Aston Martin like in that color.
 


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