2017 vs 2022 Exhaust Note
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09-15-2022, 05:15 PM
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09-16-2022, 08:06 AM
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#4
09-16-2022, 11:26 AM
I own a facelift 2021 R and I have been inside a 2015 R extensively. I prefer the exhaust on my 2021 with the fuse 15 removed better (basically active exhaust disabled) and I love loud exhausts in general. Here is why:
I think the change in sound in the later models can be summarized in two bullets. 1) The ECU tune in previous models resulted in lots of pops and crackles, very theatrical but in my opinion not suitable for the GT character of the F-type. The pops and crackles are much more limited on my 2021 model but they feel more organic and definitely feel more mature, fitting the character of the car better in my opinion. There is nothing you can do to change this unless you re-tune your ECU which you can if you with go with an aftermarket tune. 2) The changes to the active exhaust and how the valves are opened/closed. On my 2021 model regardless of whether you have the exhaust in dynamic mode or not, the active exhaust valves would not open until about 3500 rpm, which really limited the enjoyment of the car and I believe this is number one reason for the complaints you hear on the media and the internet in general. Good news is that you can fix this in 5 minutes by removing the fuse for the active exhaust. This won't impact the car or the warranty in anyway and your valves will be open at all times. If you get bored, you can always put the fuse back in. I personally don't plan on putting back the fuse in, it does get slightly loud at cold-starts but outside of that it has been great.
Outside of the points above, I haven't seen any evidence that there is a change in new model's exhaust hardware when compared to the the previous model's hardware, basically the same rear muffler and the cat setup (only SVR had a different hardware setup).
I think the change in sound in the later models can be summarized in two bullets. 1) The ECU tune in previous models resulted in lots of pops and crackles, very theatrical but in my opinion not suitable for the GT character of the F-type. The pops and crackles are much more limited on my 2021 model but they feel more organic and definitely feel more mature, fitting the character of the car better in my opinion. There is nothing you can do to change this unless you re-tune your ECU which you can if you with go with an aftermarket tune. 2) The changes to the active exhaust and how the valves are opened/closed. On my 2021 model regardless of whether you have the exhaust in dynamic mode or not, the active exhaust valves would not open until about 3500 rpm, which really limited the enjoyment of the car and I believe this is number one reason for the complaints you hear on the media and the internet in general. Good news is that you can fix this in 5 minutes by removing the fuse for the active exhaust. This won't impact the car or the warranty in anyway and your valves will be open at all times. If you get bored, you can always put the fuse back in. I personally don't plan on putting back the fuse in, it does get slightly loud at cold-starts but outside of that it has been great.
Outside of the points above, I haven't seen any evidence that there is a change in new model's exhaust hardware when compared to the the previous model's hardware, basically the same rear muffler and the cat setup (only SVR had a different hardware setup).
Last edited by ToysARs; 09-16-2022 at 11:31 AM.
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09-17-2022, 07:54 AM
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I own a facelift 2021 R and I have been inside a 2015 R extensively. I prefer the exhaust on my 2021 with the fuse 15 removed better (basically active exhaust disabled) and I love loud exhausts in general. Here is why:
I think the change in sound in the later models can be summarized in two bullets. 1) The ECU tune in previous models resulted in lots of pops and crackles, very theatrical but in my opinion not suitable for the GT character of the F-type. The pops and crackles are much more limited on my 2021 model but they feel more organic and definitely feel more mature, fitting the character of the car better in my opinion. There is nothing you can do to change this unless you re-tune your ECU which you can if you with go with an aftermarket tune. 2) The changes to the active exhaust and how the valves are opened/closed. On my 2021 model regardless of whether you have the exhaust in dynamic mode or not, the active exhaust valves would not open until about 3500 rpm, which really limited the enjoyment of the car and I believe this is number one reason for the complaints you hear on the media and the internet in general. Good news is that you can fix this in 5 minutes by removing the fuse for the active exhaust. This won't impact the car or the warranty in anyway and your valves will be open at all times. If you get bored, you can always put the fuse back in. I personally don't plan on putting back the fuse in, it does get slightly loud at cold-starts but outside of that it has been great.
Outside of the points above, I haven't seen any evidence that there is a change in new model's exhaust hardware when compared to the the previous model's hardware, basically the same rear muffler and the cat setup (only SVR had a different hardware setup).
I think the change in sound in the later models can be summarized in two bullets. 1) The ECU tune in previous models resulted in lots of pops and crackles, very theatrical but in my opinion not suitable for the GT character of the F-type. The pops and crackles are much more limited on my 2021 model but they feel more organic and definitely feel more mature, fitting the character of the car better in my opinion. There is nothing you can do to change this unless you re-tune your ECU which you can if you with go with an aftermarket tune. 2) The changes to the active exhaust and how the valves are opened/closed. On my 2021 model regardless of whether you have the exhaust in dynamic mode or not, the active exhaust valves would not open until about 3500 rpm, which really limited the enjoyment of the car and I believe this is number one reason for the complaints you hear on the media and the internet in general. Good news is that you can fix this in 5 minutes by removing the fuse for the active exhaust. This won't impact the car or the warranty in anyway and your valves will be open at all times. If you get bored, you can always put the fuse back in. I personally don't plan on putting back the fuse in, it does get slightly loud at cold-starts but outside of that it has been great.
Outside of the points above, I haven't seen any evidence that there is a change in new model's exhaust hardware when compared to the the previous model's hardware, basically the same rear muffler and the cat setup (only SVR had a different hardware setup).
Try an earlier car with aftermarket cats!
#6
09-18-2022, 09:59 AM
Originally Posted by ToysARs
I own a facelift 2021 R and I have been inside a 2015 R extensively. I prefer the exhaust on my 2021 with the fuse 15 removed better (basically active exhaust disabled) and I love loud exhausts in general. Here is why:
I think the change in sound in the later models can be summarized in two bullets. 1) The ECU tune in previous models resulted in lots of pops and crackles, very theatrical but in my opinion not suitable for the GT character of the F-type. The pops and crackles are much more limited on my 2021 model but they feel more organic and definitely feel more mature, fitting the character of the car better in my opinion. There is nothing you can do to change this unless you re-tune your ECU which you can if you with go with an aftermarket tune. 2) The changes to the active exhaust and how the valves are opened/closed. On my 2021 model regardless of whether you have the exhaust in dynamic mode or not, the active exhaust valves would not open until about 3500 rpm, which really limited the enjoyment of the car and I believe this is number one reason for the complaints you hear on the media and the internet in general. Good news is that you can fix this in 5 minutes by removing the fuse for the active exhaust. This won't impact the car or the warranty in anyway and your valves will be open at all times. If you get bored, you can always put the fuse back in. I personally don't plan on putting back the fuse in, it does get slightly loud at cold-starts but outside of that it has been great.
Outside of the points above, I haven't seen any evidence that there is a change in new model's exhaust hardware when compared to the the previous model's hardware, basically the same rear muffler and the cat setup (only SVR had a different hardware setup).
I think the change in sound in the later models can be summarized in two bullets. 1) The ECU tune in previous models resulted in lots of pops and crackles, very theatrical but in my opinion not suitable for the GT character of the F-type. The pops and crackles are much more limited on my 2021 model but they feel more organic and definitely feel more mature, fitting the character of the car better in my opinion. There is nothing you can do to change this unless you re-tune your ECU which you can if you with go with an aftermarket tune. 2) The changes to the active exhaust and how the valves are opened/closed. On my 2021 model regardless of whether you have the exhaust in dynamic mode or not, the active exhaust valves would not open until about 3500 rpm, which really limited the enjoyment of the car and I believe this is number one reason for the complaints you hear on the media and the internet in general. Good news is that you can fix this in 5 minutes by removing the fuse for the active exhaust. This won't impact the car or the warranty in anyway and your valves will be open at all times. If you get bored, you can always put the fuse back in. I personally don't plan on putting back the fuse in, it does get slightly loud at cold-starts but outside of that it has been great.
Outside of the points above, I haven't seen any evidence that there is a change in new model's exhaust hardware when compared to the the previous model's hardware, basically the same rear muffler and the cat setup (only SVR had a different hardware setup).
#7
09-18-2022, 12:50 PM
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Overrun change ......
Nati ....
I'm wondering if the S model and the R model could be different. My car is also a 2017 F Type R sports car and the pops n bangs overrun is definitely there. About 2 years ago when the covid just started, I was driving through the Lincoln Tunnel retuning back to NJ. It was approx 2AM at the moment. Traffic was very light in the tunnel, almost empty. My car was popping and banging so much and so loud, a new model BMW 750i sedan came up to the right side of my car, rolled down his window started yelling at me and giving me the middle finger. That was his reaction to my car's overrun. I am under the impression that the overrun was curtailed for the 18 model and up. No ?
I'm wondering if the S model and the R model could be different. My car is also a 2017 F Type R sports car and the pops n bangs overrun is definitely there. About 2 years ago when the covid just started, I was driving through the Lincoln Tunnel retuning back to NJ. It was approx 2AM at the moment. Traffic was very light in the tunnel, almost empty. My car was popping and banging so much and so loud, a new model BMW 750i sedan came up to the right side of my car, rolled down his window started yelling at me and giving me the middle finger. That was his reaction to my car's overrun. I am under the impression that the overrun was curtailed for the 18 model and up. No ?
Last edited by Turko; 09-18-2022 at 01:47 PM.
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