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Old 02-18-2024, 11:23 AM
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Default 2019-FType Coupe-19 miles

Have had two jags.

X8 and XF currently.

Would like an FType and looked at a 2019 “Premium” which apparently means a non-S.

19k miles and they are asking 34k, which from what I can see is 4k over priced easily.

Suppose the big question is—is it a mistake to buy a non-S?

Its very pretty, but the interior is pretty basic and no where near our Portfolio edition XF.

Non-S bad idea?
 
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Old 02-18-2024, 11:40 AM
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Personally, loading a car up with all kinds of superfluous non-sense is absurd. It's a car, not a rolling massage parlor. I have a base v6 and I think it's got everything I need. Plus, so much less to go wrong. I've seen cars much like major appliances, get a good quality example without all the bells and whistles. Do you really need a washing machine with sixty-five settings? How about air cooled seats and a heated steering wheel? It's amazing that people don't hire somebody to drive the damn car for them!
 
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Personally, loading a car up with all kinds of superfluous non-sense is absurd. It's a car, not a rolling massage parlor. I have a base v6 and I think it's got everything I need. Plus, so much less to go wrong. I've seen cars much like major appliances, get a good quality example without all the bells and whistles. Do you really need a washing machine with sixty-five settings? How about air cooled seats and a heated steering wheel? It's amazing that people don't hire somebody to drive the damn car for them!

The wife tends to favor the nicer interiors.

As do I.

Otherwise the only option I think she might really need is the blind spot detectors in the mirrors.

We might make an offer on this one, but doubt it will be close to 34k. It was still being repaired for some AC issue.
 
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I have a 2017 Premium and it is the 6 cyl. It has better acceleration than our 2018 corvette (equivalent as it is a StingRay and not a Z06, etc. but it IS a V-8, but no supercharger) Plus AFAIK, the speed limit is still under 100 mph. The F has the heated seats and steering wheel, (nice here in central Wisconsin) and has the Vision Package which is helpful. The standard seating is comfortable and easy to care for. The main seating area is a suede-like synthetic called Alcantara and is easy to clean and maintain. The corvette has all leather seats and if you want leather to stay nice, you do have to clean them and condition them. WAY more important is the car's history via CarFax and how it has been maintained. Make sure the center ventilation system raises and lowers with no grinding or rattling. I also have the Panoramic roof and if this one does (but it doesn't look like it), make sure the sliding panel opens and closes easily. Fs have AGM batteries, which may only have a 4 year life. I say 'may' because some F owners still have OE/factory battery after 6-7 years. I had to have mine replaced at about 4 years. In Fs, a weak battery exhibits strange car behaviour and throws codes though it may start just fine. Be sure the hazard warning light goes off after about 10 minutes after you get out of it. Otherwise it may be that the system hasn't closed itself and may drain the battery. Then, bring the $30K (or whatever), your printouts of comparable sales and show it to them. "A willing buyer and a willing seller", that's all it takes.
 
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I think the biggest must-have is the Vision Pack (visibility is terrible), although the backup camera is mandatory in the US for "all automobiles sold in the United States built beginning in May 2018" (I looked it up). The rest of the vision pack is really helpful: parking sensors, blind-spot detection, and cross-traffic alert. If you ever back out of parking spaces, that last one is really worth it.

For me, the LSD was the first thing that made me consider as S at minimum. I just couldn't see that much power with an open diff, but many don't seem to mind. It depends on how you drive, but sounds like it might be a non-issue for you. Also, I wanted the Performance Seats (I liked the style a little better and they fit me well), the Super Performance brakes (OK, so I have a brake fetish), and the manual transmission (because I could get it).

I don't know if the Vision pack was available as an option on the base model. It may have varied by year, but I stopped looking at Base specs once I saw the open diff.
 
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Simple answer - drive both and see which floats your boat.
 
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My concern on getting a non-S would be the suspension. The S came with an adaptive suspension which resulted in a ride that was less firm. If you test drive the car pay close attention to the firmness of the ride and determine if you could live with that long term.
 
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If you have any interest in tuning it for more power (~415HP tune only, 450HP tune+crank pulley), keep in mind the base model doesn’t have a limited-slip differential.
 

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The 2017 premium (6 cyl) coupe I have has manual transmission. I have an on/off switch for Active Exhaust as well as a Dynamic Switch.

In the Touchscreen menus, I think you can customize the dynamics. Where it is set now is fine for me so I never messed with making any changes. Here is a YT video that perhaps explains it. I'm not sure all versions of the F have it.



Here is description from F owners manual site:

https://www.ownerinfo.jaguar.com/doc...09926/G2409935

Here is the main site to choose other years:

https://www.ownerinfo.jaguar.com/
 
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My concern on getting a non-S would be the suspension. The S came with an adaptive suspension which resulted in a ride that was less firm. If you test drive the car pay close attention to the firmness of the ride and determine if you could live with that long term.
Yes, good point. I'd forgotten about that aspect, but haven't been in a base model since a test drive in 2014.
 
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Originally Posted by RootBeerGMT
Have had two jags.

X8 and XF currently.

Would like an FType and looked at a 2019 “Premium” which apparently means a non-S.

19k miles and they are asking 34k, which from what I can see is 4k over priced easily.

Suppose the big question is—is it a mistake to buy a non-S?

Its very pretty, but the interior is pretty basic and no where near our Portfolio edition XF.

Non-S bad idea?
Were it me I would not want to own this particular car without the LSD and the adaptive suspension. Those two items alone would be enough to keep me away from the base model.
 
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There are no 2019 S models. They discontinued using the 'S' mark on the F-Type.
 
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Originally Posted by RootBeerGMT
Have had two jags.

X8 and XF currently.

Would like an FType and looked at a 2019 “Premium” which apparently means a non-S.

19k miles and they are asking 34k, which from what I can see is 4k over priced easily.

Suppose the big question is—is it a mistake to buy a non-S?

Its very pretty, but the interior is pretty basic and no where near our Portfolio edition XF.

Non-S bad idea?
There is no way this is a 2019, unless they swapped the front bumper cover and the headlights. Everything about that car says 2015-2017.
 
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Originally Posted by eeeeek
There are no 2019 S models. They discontinued using the 'S' mark on the F-Type.
Were it me, the lack of an LSD and adaptive suspension would keep me away from the base car, regardless of what the next step up was called which had those features.
 
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Originally Posted by eeeeek
There is no way this is a 2019, unless they swapped the front bumper cover and the headlights. Everything about that car says 2015-2017.
Digit 10 of the VIN would give a definitive answer to the MY - MY19 would be K.
 
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That looks to be a base 2017 V6 RWD. Is it worth it is subjective but if I were in the market for an F-type, especially RWD, I'd want the LSD.
 
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