2022 F-Type R - used 1 quart of oil in 1st 6000 miles and dealer can’t find leak! Says let’s see if it happens again. It’s smells of oil even at cold starts.

What do you guys think?

 

One obvious possibility is that the oil level was not up to FULL to begin with. Oherwise....not sure.

 

It was full when I purchased the car.

 

It's a pretty short list of possibilities:

• It wasn't full to begin with
• It's burning it
• It's dripping it
• It's dripping only when moving

I suggest getting under the car and checking for any oil-wetted areas. If nothing is found, it's down to the first two possibilities.

 

have you been driving your car hard? f type gets a bit of blow by when youre on it, i'd say top it up and keep an eye on it

 

Nope, just normal driving. It’s a convertible. Oh forgot to mention that it smells of oil even at cold starts .

 

could be a failed gasket or seal, i'd do a blackstone analysis to get more info if your dealer is being useless

 

Remember, thé dealer cannot find the leak.
If it’s burning the oil; shouldn’t there be black smoke?
And, if it’s burning oil being a new engine; the engine would beyond repair ?

 

One quart in 6000 miles is nuthin'. Some of that usage might be from break-in. (Uses oil until the rings/valve guides 'seat'.) That amount of oil loss would never generate visible exhaust smoke.

Keep monitoring the oil level (use the car's controls to monitor prior to start-up, every few weeks). Many manufacturers still recommend checking oil & fluid levels every other gasoline fill-up...its Good Practice.

Your smell might be something different...

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An Exxon oil engineer once told us that its the oil's additives that burn off first...so a bit of fresh oil on occasion is actually a 'good thing'.

 

If the dealer did in fact get under the car, remove the aerodynamic panels and carefully examine the underbody for signs of oil leaks, then chances are that it burned a quart. And 1 quart over 6000 miles on a brand new engine is a lot but not excessive. Every car is different. I had a couple of cars with the Nissan VQ engines and both burned oil during the break in period and one didn't settle down and stop burning oil until about the 30,000 mile mark ! My Mazda on the other hand only burned about 1/4 quart every 5000 miles for the first 15,000 miles and now doesn't seem to be using any oil at all.

Hard to tell for sure on a Jaguar since they don't have a dipstick. How do you know for sure that it is 1 quart down from how the car was delivered ? Did the electronic gauge go from MAX to well below the half mark when always checked under the same condition ?

 

This is a very good point!

 

I have a 2016. When I first purchased the car I was having this same issue also, the dealer even allowed me to come back to see there were no leak or oil residue anywhere beneath the car. I would say around 5k miles it stopped and from that point forward I never needed to top off the oil.

 

Here's my bet: The dealer was still using the wrong figure of 7.25 L for your car, but since yours is AWD, it only holds 6.5. The other missing 0.25 is the dealer rounding up.

**EDIT** I just saw you say it smells of oil. Mine never has, so that is a bit of a concern, but is there any smoke? A little oil goes a long way on a hot engine.

 

The oil showed max capacity on date of purchase and within the year produced a reading stating add 1 quart of oil. At no time has JLR say that this is “normal”nor could they because this is uncommon for this engine.

 

I know you have a serious concern but Jaguars have been oil burners since the XK120. The XK engine was designed to burn oil because of the long stroke.

 

It’s a serious concern because I have a Range Rover with same engine that’s 4 years old and doesn’t lose oil. I expected the same trouble free operation.

Before I bought the Rover, thé dealer offered me a used Rover, only 12 months old, new car warranty with 36,000 miles!!! The prior owner was in sales. I would be surprised if that vehicle wasn’t returned with barely a quart of oil remaining since most JLR customers don’t check their oil and rely on the annual oil changes. Can you imagine Kim Kardashian performing weekly oil checks???🤔

I also have a v6 X-Type that I bought new 21 years ago that has 140,000 miles and has never burned oil. However, gaskets were replaced for leaks well after 100,000 miles.

 

Given that the last XK engine for automobile installation was made in 1986/87, it can hardly be said that Jaguar engines “have been oil burners since the XK120”. Modern Jaguar engines (neither the V8 engines nor the V6 engines) burn any excessive amount of oil in normal use. I have owned Jaguar V12 cars, the XK engine in XJ6 models, the 4.0 litre and 4.2 litre V8, and the 2.5 and 3.0 V6 and also the F-Type V6 engines (whew!) -all for periods of years. Not one of them, not one, required oil added between changes.

The 3.8 litre XK engine in my 1966 Mk2 does need a sip occasionally, but just a sip.

 

I'm sure she 'has a guy'! Should still be done!

But yeah, I can imagine it....

 

Hmmm, most manufacturers will tell you new engines may burn some oil until they're fully settled in (that can mean 5-10K miles. For those of us coming from BMW's that was very much the norm...more usual than not for a new car, especially M version...and they're not an outlier. I'm not even sure most auto engineers would sweat a quart every 5 thousand miles over the car's lifetime...especially if the car's driven aggressively. That is not what a manufacturer would call "excessive"...sorry, but there's overwhelming evidence that a quart for about 1000 miles for an aggressively driven car is acceptable. For owners who drive in a more relaxed manner, it's likely you'd see less consumption. Also, likely to see a bit more consumption for turbo and super charged (that's us) engines...again, especially if you're heavy footed. Finally, warm up procedure matters...take it light until the oil is on temp (not coolant, oil).

 

None of that applies here. One of the reasons why I purchased the car is because didn’t want a BMW engine. I made thé post here to get feedback from people who actually have F-Types. 1/3 of the 6000 miles was the vehicle break in process which is mild driving. Further, the manual says you should NEVER drive over 4000 rpm until the engine is at normal operating temperature. Hypothetically speaking at operating temperature, you can cruise in an 2022 F-Type R convertible at 100mph and never exceed 2200 RPM! Imagine how fast you could go before you hit 4000 rpm. Even a quick lane change or freeway entry/exit will be below 4000rpm. All of this supports why modern JLR v8’s don’t burn much oil.

I could have asked that guy on YouTube that called his Kia a hybrid because it burns nearly equal amounts of oil and gas, but his views wouldn’t be useful.🤦🏼‍♀️


P.S.:An update from Jaguar is coming soon.