2022 Jaguar F-Type Goes V-8 Only
#61
Agreeing with many points said, 4cyl is wiser, better, more economic etc..., but being called "Juvenile" or "unwise" or even "don't know what they are talking about" when someone wish a V12 option or even that would be unwise Jaguar make a V12 option available is a bit....
After a mostly Porsches, Audi, Mercedes, Bmw, Alfa's and even Smart, F-type V6 and now a V8, from 3 cylinders to 12 cylinders, sure i would like to have V12 if available and if I could afford it, that's exactly the reason i traded the V6 for V8, more expensive? Yes, better? All them are good and different, would you have F-type 2.0? Sure, is also great.
But if you can afford more exotic engine/ car and if only 2.0's are available (excluding if they make some 2.0 like the crazy v6 XJ220), then you will get other brand/ model instead a Jaguar F-type, the V8 made me stay on Jaguar instead of a R8 or 911! Perhaps i have more Jeremy Clarkson views than a Scotty Kilmer on sport cars. With that said, sure, being "more" rational, i would have a Tesla, a Hybrid or Dacia instead of a "mostly" useless two seat sport car, regardless if is 2.0, 3.0 or 5.0.
After a mostly Porsches, Audi, Mercedes, Bmw, Alfa's and even Smart, F-type V6 and now a V8, from 3 cylinders to 12 cylinders, sure i would like to have V12 if available and if I could afford it, that's exactly the reason i traded the V6 for V8, more expensive? Yes, better? All them are good and different, would you have F-type 2.0? Sure, is also great.
But if you can afford more exotic engine/ car and if only 2.0's are available (excluding if they make some 2.0 like the crazy v6 XJ220), then you will get other brand/ model instead a Jaguar F-type, the V8 made me stay on Jaguar instead of a R8 or 911! Perhaps i have more Jeremy Clarkson views than a Scotty Kilmer on sport cars. With that said, sure, being "more" rational, i would have a Tesla, a Hybrid or Dacia instead of a "mostly" useless two seat sport car, regardless if is 2.0, 3.0 or 5.0.
#62
I just paid £490 for my V8 (gets much cheaper after 7 years, though), it's more expensive if registered before March 2017 and much cheaper if registered before March 2001. I think governments are missing a trick to get people out of cars and on to public transport - if I've paid nearly £500 quid to use my car for a year there's no way it's staying at home while I take a smelly bus full of other people!
#63
In Ireland there isn't one R F-type on the roads, maybe one V6, if there was they are all exported to the UK same with lot of performance cars c02 tax is a lot cheaper. The new 2.0 in Ireland starts at €95,000 with no options the €105 for the vert. The 450 RWD €138,000 the 450 AWD €147,000 and then the 575 €189,000 all with no options it would take the 575 way over €200,000 with extras , callosal price and then pay €2,300 each year on c02 tax, no way. Correct me if I'm wrong but in UK for road tax on F-type it's around £465/€541 then dropping after a few years. Seems the UK and the US is the only place the bigger engines are flourishing , Europe the 2.0 is the main seller.
I was so pleased when 2.0 was launched and as I said doesn't disappoint, exhaust note seems to be a big thing for some people, but I've mine modified which gives me plenty of noise, pops and bangs, speed now is dictated by speed cameras and there everywhere so that's not an issue, it drives well , looks well, and is an F-type.
Think there is a lot of ,big man little man syndrome, O you shouldn't have a small engine in that car, Sorry but to quote Bob Dylan, "The Times They Are a-Changin"
I was so pleased when 2.0 was launched and as I said doesn't disappoint, exhaust note seems to be a big thing for some people, but I've mine modified which gives me plenty of noise, pops and bangs, speed now is dictated by speed cameras and there everywhere so that's not an issue, it drives well , looks well, and is an F-type.
Think there is a lot of ,big man little man syndrome, O you shouldn't have a small engine in that car, Sorry but to quote Bob Dylan, "The Times They Are a-Changin"
So you went and modify the 2.0 to sound more like the 3.0 and then if someone prefers a better sounding engine, mostly sure is something wrong inside of their trousers. Check.
PS. I noticed in this forum happens a lot someone with small engines go after others opinions when they are different. Is also the same between RWD or AWD, or if tune or not. Perhaps they just want to re ensure they have made the best decision. And then go a bit on personal attacks or offtopic. Enjoy what you have without judge others and is space enough for all options and opinions.
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tzoid9 (07-02-2021)
#64
Agreeing with many points said, 4cyl is wiser, better, more economic etc..., but being called "Juvenile" or "unwise" or even "don't know what they are talking about" when someone wish a V12 option or even that would be unwise Jaguar make a V12 option available is a bit....
After a mostly Porsches, Audi, Mercedes, Bmw, Alfa's and even Smart, F-type V6 and now a V8, from 3 cylinders to 12 cylinders, sure i would like to have V12 if available and if I could afford it, that's exactly the reason i traded the V6 for V8, more expensive? Yes, better? All them are good and different, would you have F-type 2.0? Sure, is also great.
But if you can afford more exotic engine/ car and if only 2.0's are available (excluding if they make some 2.0 like the crazy v6 XJ220), then you will get other brand/ model instead a Jaguar F-type, the V8 made me stay on Jaguar instead of a R8 or 911! Perhaps i have more Jeremy Clarkson views than a Scotty Kilmer on sport cars. With that said, sure, being "more" rational, i would have a Tesla, a Hybrid or Dacia instead of a "mostly" useless two seat sport car, regardless if is 2.0, 3.0 or 5.0.
After a mostly Porsches, Audi, Mercedes, Bmw, Alfa's and even Smart, F-type V6 and now a V8, from 3 cylinders to 12 cylinders, sure i would like to have V12 if available and if I could afford it, that's exactly the reason i traded the V6 for V8, more expensive? Yes, better? All them are good and different, would you have F-type 2.0? Sure, is also great.
But if you can afford more exotic engine/ car and if only 2.0's are available (excluding if they make some 2.0 like the crazy v6 XJ220), then you will get other brand/ model instead a Jaguar F-type, the V8 made me stay on Jaguar instead of a R8 or 911! Perhaps i have more Jeremy Clarkson views than a Scotty Kilmer on sport cars. With that said, sure, being "more" rational, i would have a Tesla, a Hybrid or Dacia instead of a "mostly" useless two seat sport car, regardless if is 2.0, 3.0 or 5.0.
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#66
The car on its own will never even move, so it must be the driver making the difference. Of course, a powerful car will identify the talent available (or at least the common sense!) behind the wheel rather quickly ....
#67
Good thanks for your feed back bcbruno. I think Jeremy Clarkson and his team may have persuaded many a motorist in a particular direction of performance and speed. I believe in the 90's he had a had a Jaguar X300 and then the V8 version. The show is great entertainment but I never seem to get any real information about cars from it. The show always appeared to be about speed and performance to me, and there was no way that I would ever be able to drive a car like those guys do. They are driving like that all the time and get lots of practice. The reality is that on the road things often come as a surprise and without regular practise my reactions are not as good as I would like them to be. I see these guys with super cars loosing control and smashing them up. I wonder how these cars can loose control. is it the driver or the car or is it both? We pay a lot of money for our cars but do we really know what we are getting our selves in for, and shows like Top Gear don't really help, they talk speed and performance but very little practicality. There must be something about cars that possess us to buy the fastest, and without thinking place our selves in a positions of temptation that could put ourselves in fatal danger.
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#70
I frequently drive 40+ year old classic cars. One of my favorite roadsters is no-ABS, no-traction control V8 with about 250 HP. I have locked tires or skid in it on dry road more than once, which could have easily resulted in a disaster if I didn't have training in recovering. Add 30% more power to that and it would be a death trap for anyone but a trained race car drivers.
Did you know that over 50% of original Vipers (pre-ABS, no traction control) got crashed, most in 1-person accidents? This should tell you everything you need to know about what is likely to happen without nannies with F-type.
Last edited by SinF; 06-07-2021 at 08:56 AM.
#71
I seriously considered getting the V6 model, but once I started adding the options that are standard on the R model, the cost differential wasn't that great anymore. I figured that since I was about to spend as much money as my first house cost, I might as well go whole hog and spring for the top of the line model with a few options that were important to me.
If I had to choose between a 450 HP V8 and the 575 HP V8 I think I might be happy with 450 HP. But it will be interesting to go to the Jaguar website and do a "Build My Vehicle" exercise once the models are available and see what the cost difference is with those two models once the preferred options are chosen. Will it be $10k ? $20K ?
If I had to choose between a 450 HP V8 and the 575 HP V8 I think I might be happy with 450 HP. But it will be interesting to go to the Jaguar website and do a "Build My Vehicle" exercise once the models are available and see what the cost difference is with those two models once the preferred options are chosen. Will it be $10k ? $20K ?
#72
I vaguely recall back in the 70s or 80s a UK car magazine trying to do an article about a particular model of Ferrari after six months, of which only 6 were imported into the UK. As I recall, only one owner was still alive.
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SinF (06-07-2021)
#73
Ah, the advantage(?) of old age - my F-Type was 7 times more than my my first house cost. Of course, I could (relatively) easily afford the Jag, whereas I could only just about afford the house at the tme!
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#76
Modern cars, including F-type, do amazing job of keeping the driver from doing stupid things but no technology can overcome physics.
I frequently drive 40+ year old classic cars. One of my favorite roadsters is no-ABS, no-traction control V8 with about 250 HP. I have locked tires or skid in it on dry road more than once, which could have easily resulted in a disaster if I didn't have training in recovering. Add 30% more power to that and it would be a death trap for anyone but a trained race car drivers.
Did you know that over 50% of original Vipers (pre-ABS, no traction control) got crashed, most in 1-person accidents? This should tell you everything you need to know about what is likely to happen without nannies with F-type.
I frequently drive 40+ year old classic cars. One of my favorite roadsters is no-ABS, no-traction control V8 with about 250 HP. I have locked tires or skid in it on dry road more than once, which could have easily resulted in a disaster if I didn't have training in recovering. Add 30% more power to that and it would be a death trap for anyone but a trained race car drivers.
Did you know that over 50% of original Vipers (pre-ABS, no traction control) got crashed, most in 1-person accidents? This should tell you everything you need to know about what is likely to happen without nannies with F-type.
#77
Has anyone really looked into the P450 yet. The 5.0 engine is capable of 450hp without an SC. Even if it is supercharged, I would guess they’re not going to waste money on a TVS1900R but spend it on a smaller SC instead making 600+ horses with a pulley and tune impossible.
#78
Has anyone really looked into the P450 yet. The 5.0 engine is capable of 450hp without an SC. Even if it is supercharged, I would guess they’re not going to waste money on a TVS1900R but spend it on a smaller SC instead making 600+ horses with a pulley and tune impossible.
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Has anyone really looked into the P450 yet. The 5.0 engine is capable of 450hp without an SC. Even if it is supercharged, I would guess they’re not going to waste money on a TVS1900R but spend it on a smaller SC instead making 600+ horses with a pulley and tune impossible.
And as already mentioned a basic VAP tune will take it to 600+ neddies which means the only thing holding anyone back is warranty.
#80
Has anyone really looked into the P450 yet. The 5.0 engine is capable of 450hp without an SC. Even if it is supercharged, I would guess they’re not going to waste money on a TVS1900R but spend it on a smaller SC instead making 600+ horses with a pulley and tune impossible.