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Old 06-23-2015, 12:38 PM
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Apparently Toluene can be hazardous if inhaled, which makes it a bit risky. .
Not any more so than any other component in gasoline. Benzene, on the other hand, is even higher octane, but extremely carcinogenic. Benzene limits in gasoline were regulated dramatically lower back in the early '90s.
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo
The ECU pulls back the throttle, this is well known on Jag engines. It's exactly how you can have various power outputs from the same engine. Also the bypass valve on the V6 and the latest V8 is electrically actuated, not vacuum operated meaning it can be precisely controlled.
The Torque curve on both printouts is a shape that suggests the ECU isn't limiting boost, but might be limiting throttle opening.

Or, there could just be a boost leak at the bypass valve...
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
Or, there could just be a boost leak at the bypass valve...
On two different cars though?
 
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Yep. If the butterfly valve can't seat properly on one due to a manufacturing fault, the chances are it affects lots of other cars....
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo
The ECU pulls back the throttle, this is well known on Jag engines. It's exactly how you can have various power outputs from the same engine. Also the bypass valve on the V6 and the latest V8 is electrically actuated, not vacuum operated meaning it can be precisely controlled.
Cambo, I've just been reading that the base V6 only gets 70% of full throttle, which might explain why the torque drops off faster above 5k RPM than on the S.
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
Cambo, I've just been reading that the base V6 only gets 70% of full throttle, which might explain why the torque drops off faster above 5k RPM than on the S.
Where did you read this? This isn't the case.
 
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The reduction in power from the V6S to the V6.

Same thing with the 5.0L; 470ps, 495ps, 510ps, 550ps, from an identical engine.

JLR aren't the only ones that do this, the supercharged Ford Coyote V8 "Miami" here in Oz is similar, throttled back to hit a number.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
One thing that does ring true is that the power does seem to "fall off a cliff" once you hit 6K rpms. My "butt dyno" feels that routinely.
Cambo,

That chart certainly is consistent with what I said in post #5 above w/ regard to my base car.
 
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