Aftermarket head unit (stereo)
#81
05-24-2020, 01:07 PM
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I've got a Jaguar XE 2017 with the old unit with the physical buttons on the side. Here's what I'm looking for: I'm simply looking to install a front bumper camera, and maybe be able to also play Youtube on the head unit. What are the chances either of these are able to be done on the factory head unit?
it does supports aftermarket front and rear cameras, and i don’t think YouTube is available built-in to either android auto or CarPlay but you could probably use the screen mirroring feature to accomplish that. Again, I don’t have firsthand experience with either, but good luck.
#82
05-24-2020, 01:10 PM
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I don’t know, and you might want to post your question to the XE forum instead, but UAD does make a model that seems to do what you want: https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/wire...ace-2016-2018/
it does supports aftermarket front and rear cameras, and i don’t think YouTube is available built-in to either android auto or CarPlay but you could probably use the screen mirroring feature to accomplish that. Again, I don’t have firsthand experience with either, but good luck.
it does supports aftermarket front and rear cameras, and i don’t think YouTube is available built-in to either android auto or CarPlay but you could probably use the screen mirroring feature to accomplish that. Again, I don’t have firsthand experience with either, but good luck.
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#83
05-24-2020, 07:48 PM
Thanks for the review. I’ve been considering the same myself. Anything you don’t like about the system? Also I notice to the right of the shift you have a magnetic phone holder. Is that placed in the coin slot where the roof control would be for a convertible? I have the same phone mount but plugged into the lighter.
#84
05-24-2020, 09:25 PM
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just watched that video
i have a few unanswered questions though on the UAD - i messaged them directly too - do the forward/back buttons on steering wheel work on their unit for eg
I know the naviplus unit has them enabled now
Also i'm not sure how much of an issue losing oe nav will be when you're in an area where you have no phone reception to run nav maps off your phone - i know your phone buffers the maps and you still have gps, but you wouldn't be able to input a destination to get back home for example if you have no phone reception
The UAD unit has that clever reset functionality, i think they need to come up with a work around to keep oe nav enabled and cycle the carplay module to turn on/off as needed
i have a few unanswered questions though on the UAD - i messaged them directly too - do the forward/back buttons on steering wheel work on their unit for eg
I know the naviplus unit has them enabled now
Also i'm not sure how much of an issue losing oe nav will be when you're in an area where you have no phone reception to run nav maps off your phone - i know your phone buffers the maps and you still have gps, but you wouldn't be able to input a destination to get back home for example if you have no phone reception
The UAD unit has that clever reset functionality, i think they need to come up with a work around to keep oe nav enabled and cycle the carplay module to turn on/off as needed
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#87
05-29-2020, 01:47 PM
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#88
05-29-2020, 03:36 PM
Thanks to the info here I ordered the UAD unit and installed it last night. One thing I noticed is that it seems like it's always stuck in dark mode in Android Auto. On my Cadillac with factory AA it switches between dark and light based on the headlights. Is that not a thing with the UAD one?
Also, so far I haven't had any luck getting wireless Android Auto to work even though my phone supposedly supports it. I'm not sure how it's supposed to work though. I noticed there was a button for it in the UAD Android settings, but when I press that it just goes to a black screen with a home button. From what I can find the way wireless AA is supposed to work is you connect with the cord once, then from then on it will do it wirelessly. I've never had a car with wireless AA support though, so I'm not sure if it's the UAD unit or my phone.
Also, so far I haven't had any luck getting wireless Android Auto to work even though my phone supposedly supports it. I'm not sure how it's supposed to work though. I noticed there was a button for it in the UAD Android settings, but when I press that it just goes to a black screen with a home button. From what I can find the way wireless AA is supposed to work is you connect with the cord once, then from then on it will do it wirelessly. I've never had a car with wireless AA support though, so I'm not sure if it's the UAD unit or my phone.
#89
05-29-2020, 07:32 PM
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#90
05-31-2020, 06:47 PM
In regards to the wireless Android Auto question I posted earlier, I'm not sure what I did differently but I noticed after a little bit a big Android Auto icon popped up over the UAC menu with my phone name, and when I pressed the phone name it magically connected wirelessly. The first time I tried yesterday it popped up but never successfully connected, but I tried again today and it worked.
#91
05-31-2020, 08:28 PM
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Re steering wheel controls
pretty sure I read post in fb group from a UAD owner that they can work if you leave the phone connected to oe bluetooth
no idea how that works within the menu system or functionality of carplay module but perhaps something for you guys to look into
pretty sure I read post in fb group from a UAD owner that they can work if you leave the phone connected to oe bluetooth
no idea how that works within the menu system or functionality of carplay module but perhaps something for you guys to look into
if anyone manages this, please leave an update here.
#92
06-01-2020, 11:01 AM
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I've heard back from UAD support:
Which basically means, your OE bluetooth solution continues to work. I don't think there's a way to use prev and next with Carplay on the screen.
To use the steering wheel controls, you will need to be in music playback mode (iPhone connected to Jaguar factory bluetooth in Audio profile mode, with bluetooth audio selected on car radio as audio source)
In this mode you will be able to use the music controls, but you will not hear full range of sound (i.e siri prompts) but useful for music playback.
In this mode you will be able to use the music controls, but you will not hear full range of sound (i.e siri prompts) but useful for music playback.
#93
06-08-2020, 11:26 AM
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I just did this install and can give a high level overview on this solution and the great experience I have had with them. First, it does have a software EQ application that can help with some of the range of sounds and works really well. It is built into the solution and work with BOTH Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, which this supports equally. It also supports phone mirroring, so you could mirror the entire phone (even while in motion) and supports OEM backup camera or you can use a 3rd party one as well. You could even add a front facing camera or other video input (i.e. Analog or HDMI).
The unit itself is true plug and play. It offers BOTH wired and wireless connectivity which is a bonus. The entire install can be done in less then an hour (30 minutes if you are familiar with the car.
It basically piggybacks off the factory nav unit and breaks in-between the signal going to the main screen. The factory navigation will no longer work, but now you can use whatever 3rd party nav you'd like. All other factory functionality is kept with the exception of the steering wheel controls for advance and previous (when using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto) otherwise it works fine when using another source like Bluetooth.
The audio for the units is played through the AUX port (you will need to run a cable when you do the install and I recommend purchasing an in-line ground loop isolator that is not included with the kit (~$10). You can switch back and forth between this unit and factory functionality, minus the navigation. However the trip logging, remote store, SOS, etc still works as the factory nav is still plugged in, just no longer plugged into the screen to see it. So even that works like normal. There is an external mic to let Siri or whatever work, but that is easy to install and secure hidden.
They give you very detailed steps to install. There is a great YouTube video on the install here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWO6Wpuv_ws
I did most of what they show in the video, however I was able to secure the device right on top of the factory nav unit and it sits perfect in that spot. The video does not show this, but I would recommend removing the trim around the shifter as well as the AC controls at the start to make it easier to work back there and neatly run the cables needed. You will see what I am referring to at exactly 2:00 into the video as they have pulled those pieces out by then. The metal (faceless box) you see at the 2 minute mark is the factory nav unit and the IDCORE box WILL fit snugly, but perfectly on top of this once reassembled between that and the screen. That is where mine sits.
I did have to work with them on getting an update to make the touch screen work and they also gave another update to give a hardware reset, but they are available via Chat as well as email and very good to respond.
Please feel free to ask me any other questions as I had some issues that came up during install, but they were great about getting it resolved and I love this system now that it is working. It is pricey for what it does, but the screen mirroring, extra video inputs, ability to keep most of the factory capabilities. This is a game changer (for me) on what I felt like was lacking in the infotainment setup of this otherwise amazing car.
The unit itself is true plug and play. It offers BOTH wired and wireless connectivity which is a bonus. The entire install can be done in less then an hour (30 minutes if you are familiar with the car.
It basically piggybacks off the factory nav unit and breaks in-between the signal going to the main screen. The factory navigation will no longer work, but now you can use whatever 3rd party nav you'd like. All other factory functionality is kept with the exception of the steering wheel controls for advance and previous (when using Apple CarPlay or Android Auto) otherwise it works fine when using another source like Bluetooth.
The audio for the units is played through the AUX port (you will need to run a cable when you do the install and I recommend purchasing an in-line ground loop isolator that is not included with the kit (~$10). You can switch back and forth between this unit and factory functionality, minus the navigation. However the trip logging, remote store, SOS, etc still works as the factory nav is still plugged in, just no longer plugged into the screen to see it. So even that works like normal. There is an external mic to let Siri or whatever work, but that is easy to install and secure hidden.
They give you very detailed steps to install. There is a great YouTube video on the install here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWO6Wpuv_ws
I did most of what they show in the video, however I was able to secure the device right on top of the factory nav unit and it sits perfect in that spot. The video does not show this, but I would recommend removing the trim around the shifter as well as the AC controls at the start to make it easier to work back there and neatly run the cables needed. You will see what I am referring to at exactly 2:00 into the video as they have pulled those pieces out by then. The metal (faceless box) you see at the 2 minute mark is the factory nav unit and the IDCORE box WILL fit snugly, but perfectly on top of this once reassembled between that and the screen. That is where mine sits.
I did have to work with them on getting an update to make the touch screen work and they also gave another update to give a hardware reset, but they are available via Chat as well as email and very good to respond.
Please feel free to ask me any other questions as I had some issues that came up during install, but they were great about getting it resolved and I love this system now that it is working. It is pricey for what it does, but the screen mirroring, extra video inputs, ability to keep most of the factory capabilities. This is a game changer (for me) on what I felt like was lacking in the infotainment setup of this otherwise amazing car.
Thanks again
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06-08-2020, 06:06 PM
#100
06-14-2020, 04:08 PM
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So in my setup, I’d be choosing between hearing navigation guidance and being able to change songs from the steering wheel—can’t do both at the same time.
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