Aluminum Cooling Pipes - Finally!!
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Definitely get it done when you do the two front cross-over pipes (the alu ones) as the SC needs to come off for the lower of those two pipes anyway, and the SC also needs to come off to do the rear coolant manifold.
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Yes, it's a common failure point, up there in the top 3 or 4 of failed coolant system parts.
Definitely get it done when you do the two front cross-over pipes (the alu ones) as the SC needs to come off for the lower of those two pipes anyway, and the SC also needs to come off to do the rear coolant manifold.
Definitely get it done when you do the two front cross-over pipes (the alu ones) as the SC needs to come off for the lower of those two pipes anyway, and the SC also needs to come off to do the rear coolant manifold.
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Yes it was redesigned some time around 2016 along with the front pipes and from MY2016 onwards all F-Types came with the new one-piece/seamless versions of all three pipes.
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It was later than that. My MY18 built in March 2017 had the old pipes. I believe the redesigned pipes became standard with the later builds of MY18 and newer.
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I always thought it was MY2016, dunno why, but now I know better.
At least it's the world's easiest check for curious owners and prospective buyers,10 seconds flat.
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However, I've not found any reference to a redesign of the rear manifold (AJ814007). Do you have a part number you can share?
The only detail I can find of the manifold shown covers VINs: K22185 to K61046 which is quite a range - presumably to MY20+
https://www.ashwoodjagparts.co.uk/pr...-0-v8-aj814007
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I decided to have my mechanic remove the Symposer while installing the new coolant pipes. I ordered one of these delete kits mentioned in the Symposer delete thread, and it does not fit my 2017 F-Type S.
Agency Power Sound Symposer Delete Ford Focus ST | AP-FST-111 (vividracing.com)
The bolt holes in the diamond shaped block off plate do not come close to matching the bolt holes in the Jag. I spoke to Agency Power and they do not make a version of this that they think fits the F-Type.
What we are going to try is drilling new holes in the block off plate. Looks like there is enough room. If that does not work we'll have to make our own plate.
Agency Power Sound Symposer Delete Ford Focus ST | AP-FST-111 (vividracing.com)
The bolt holes in the diamond shaped block off plate do not come close to matching the bolt holes in the Jag. I spoke to Agency Power and they do not make a version of this that they think fits the F-Type.
What we are going to try is drilling new holes in the block off plate. Looks like there is enough room. If that does not work we'll have to make our own plate.
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My MY18 was a May 2017 build. I always assumed I had the seamless cooling pipes after reading prior postings on the topic. Now I am not so sure. I think I may have the old style. Does anyone have pictures of the old style and the new style?
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Yes we just have not been able to track down the part number?
It still has the hose nipple but is apparently blocked off internally.
Here is a diagram showing the part but only the entire symposer part number and nothing for the blanking plate.
It looks like only Land Rover used the blanking part but who knows? We have had reports of the late models like 2021-2022 that does not have the symposer installed at the factory?
I did find an old listing that sold this part separate but it was a dead link and no other info. Can't see inside so still not sure?
Here is what we are looking for;
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It still has the hose nipple but is apparently blocked off internally.
Here is a diagram showing the part but only the entire symposer part number and nothing for the blanking plate.
It looks like only Land Rover used the blanking part but who knows? We have had reports of the late models like 2021-2022 that does not have the symposer installed at the factory?
I did find an old listing that sold this part separate but it was a dead link and no other info. Can't see inside so still not sure?
Here is what we are looking for;
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I decided to have my mechanic remove the Symposer while installing the new coolant pipes. I ordered one of these delete kits mentioned in the Symposer delete thread, and it does not fit my 2017 F-Type S.
Agency Power Sound Symposer Delete Ford Focus ST | AP-FST-111 (vividracing.com)
The bolt holes in the diamond shaped block off plate do not come close to matching the bolt holes in the Jag. I spoke to Agency Power and they do not make a version of this that they think fits the F-Type.
What we are going to try is drilling new holes in the block off plate. Looks like there is enough room. If that does not work we'll have to make our own plate.
Agency Power Sound Symposer Delete Ford Focus ST | AP-FST-111 (vividracing.com)
The bolt holes in the diamond shaped block off plate do not come close to matching the bolt holes in the Jag. I spoke to Agency Power and they do not make a version of this that they think fits the F-Type.
What we are going to try is drilling new holes in the block off plate. Looks like there is enough room. If that does not work we'll have to make our own plate.
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I have received an E-mail to my inquiry to the LR Centre Ltd. Asking for more information. So maybe some help from the experts.
Pretty simple to just make a plate too.
Here is a sketch I got from another thread but if I can find the above stock part and it's not too expensive it would be a very easy installation.
Sorry I don't remember who to credit for this? I did not draw it out. As posted in that thread I think you could leave the O-ring out and use a flat plate and a flat gasket. Some even just siliconed the plate on with no gasket.
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Pretty simple to just make a plate too.
Here is a sketch I got from another thread but if I can find the above stock part and it's not too expensive it would be a very easy installation.
Sorry I don't remember who to credit for this? I did not draw it out. As posted in that thread I think you could leave the O-ring out and use a flat plate and a flat gasket. Some even just siliconed the plate on with no gasket.
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How's this:
I assumed 2.5 in width as it is cut off in the photo...
If you open the PDF in Acrobat (NOT your browser), it is a 3D file so you can rotated it, zoom, etc.
I think the o-ring groove is too shallow, any idea what O-ring was being looked at/spec'd? Is the face on the engine machined flat to accept an O-ring?
I assumed 2.5 in width as it is cut off in the photo...
If you open the PDF in Acrobat (NOT your browser), it is a 3D file so you can rotated it, zoom, etc.
I think the o-ring groove is too shallow, any idea what O-ring was being looked at/spec'd? Is the face on the engine machined flat to accept an O-ring?
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That is a very kind offer! Yes I do. Don't know when I will install this as I have the SC snout noise and plan in the future to remove the SC to replace it.
I did want to post back as LR parts got back to me and I have the factory part number but as always Jaguar parts are expensive! They want between $45-$60 for it.
Part number LR025788 Plate - Blanking
But at least I did track down the part number if anyone needs it?
Interesting as this is a LR only part too.
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I did want to post back as LR parts got back to me and I have the factory part number but as always Jaguar parts are expensive! They want between $45-$60 for it.
Part number LR025788 Plate - Blanking
But at least I did track down the part number if anyone needs it?
Interesting as this is a LR only part too.
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