Any experience with Viezu charge cooler?
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Any experience with Viezu charge cooler?
30% more cooling area is nothing to sneeze at... But I haven't seen any posts on it.
https://viezu.com/shop/jaguar-charge...te_variant=5.0
https://viezu.com/shop/jaguar-charge...te_variant=5.0
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No.
F-types use an air/coolant heat exchanger located below the supercharger, while this traditional intercooler mounts at the front of the car. It will not fit, not just it, but the necessary adapter plate needed below the supercharger to divert air to it, then feed it back in, all through huge hoses/pipes that there is no room for. Total no-go in such a cramped engine compartment, but feel free to start a thread and show us otherwise!
F-types use an air/coolant heat exchanger located below the supercharger, while this traditional intercooler mounts at the front of the car. It will not fit, not just it, but the necessary adapter plate needed below the supercharger to divert air to it, then feed it back in, all through huge hoses/pipes that there is no room for. Total no-go in such a cramped engine compartment, but feel free to start a thread and show us otherwise!
Last edited by kb58; 09-17-2022 at 10:09 AM.
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No.
F-types use an air/coolant heat exchanger located below the supercharger, while this traditional intercooler mounts at the front of the car. It will not fit, not just it, but the necessary adapter plate needed below the supercharger to divert air to it, then feed it back in, all through huge hoses/pipes that there is no room for. Total no-go in such a cramped engine compartment, but feel free to start a thread and show us otherwise!
F-types use an air/coolant heat exchanger located below the supercharger, while this traditional intercooler mounts at the front of the car. It will not fit, not just it, but the necessary adapter plate needed below the supercharger to divert air to it, then feed it back in, all through huge hoses/pipes that there is no room for. Total no-go in such a cramped engine compartment, but feel free to start a thread and show us otherwise!
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No.
F-types use an air/coolant heat exchanger located below the supercharger, while this traditional intercooler mounts at the front of the car. It will not fit, not just it, but the necessary adapter plate needed below the supercharger to divert air to it, then feed it back in, all through huge hoses/pipes that there is no room for. Total no-go in such a cramped engine compartment, but feel free to start a thread and show us otherwise!
F-types use an air/coolant heat exchanger located below the supercharger, while this traditional intercooler mounts at the front of the car. It will not fit, not just it, but the necessary adapter plate needed below the supercharger to divert air to it, then feed it back in, all through huge hoses/pipes that there is no room for. Total no-go in such a cramped engine compartment, but feel free to start a thread and show us otherwise!
If I read it correctly, the image on top is the new piece, below is OEM.
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Good point! Keep in mind that "30%" bigger means just that, not 30% more power. Back-to-back testing would be needed to show how well it actually works. Inlet and outlet restrictions, material, and design may result in gains that are of questionable worth, but that's up to the buyer to decide.
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Anyway, found a reference in an old thread that a couple people that did install the cooler, and they posted the OEM for much cheaper too:
https://www.allisport.com/shop/perfo...oler-radiator/
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No one, and that's exactly my point - no data on the resulting charge temperature reduction or typical power change. Showing the crank pulley is a bit misleading if it's not included.
Last edited by kb58; 09-17-2022 at 11:07 AM.
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speaking of VIEZU.....
Hi Guys,
I don't mean to highjack the thread but I don't believe anyone ever posed the question of; Does anyone know the difference between the VIEZU engine tune and the VAP engine tune. Good, bad or otherwise. I am considering doing a tune on my 17 F Type R sports car.
Thank you.
I don't mean to highjack the thread but I don't believe anyone ever posed the question of; Does anyone know the difference between the VIEZU engine tune and the VAP engine tune. Good, bad or otherwise. I am considering doing a tune on my 17 F Type R sports car.
Thank you.
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My thoughts
Purchased the charge/intercooler last October while sending the supercharger out for porting. I have always had the mindset if one maintenance item leads to easy access to other items why not replace, especially if those said parts are known to be failure points of the engine. While the car was down for the 3-month supercharger work the following items were replaced
All coolant hoses/pipes, radiator, upgraded intercooler, water pump, spark plugs, fuel injectors, and gaskets.
My advice and why I made the purchase.
1, Buy the intercooler through Ali sport due to much cheaper price.
2, Any opportunity to replace hard plastic parts with aluminum is a positive.
3, Larger surface area and added coolant capacity should enable lower temperature although I have not tested the car since install.
In my opinion these cars should have come stock with all aluminum radiators and intercoolers due to the damage caused in overheating by the open deck block design and porous engine sleeves. I am the second owner of the car, so replacement of items provides a solid baseline of the condition of the platform and although many of our F-types have low milage (14K for me) age does play a role as plastic degrades over time.
All coolant hoses/pipes, radiator, upgraded intercooler, water pump, spark plugs, fuel injectors, and gaskets.
My advice and why I made the purchase.
1, Buy the intercooler through Ali sport due to much cheaper price.
2, Any opportunity to replace hard plastic parts with aluminum is a positive.
3, Larger surface area and added coolant capacity should enable lower temperature although I have not tested the car since install.
In my opinion these cars should have come stock with all aluminum radiators and intercoolers due to the damage caused in overheating by the open deck block design and porous engine sleeves. I am the second owner of the car, so replacement of items provides a solid baseline of the condition of the platform and although many of our F-types have low milage (14K for me) age does play a role as plastic degrades over time.
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Hi RGPV6S ......
VIEZU has several videos showing the upgrade to the F Type R sports car along with Dyno chart information/results. Are they not really or not accurate?? Here is the Viezu video channel.
Thank you for the feedback.https://m.youtube.com/c/ViezuTechnologies
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Yes I posted who actually makes these and it's AlliSport. That mistake cost me almost $500 and that's why I posted back to the list on where to purchase it.
Consider upgrading your inter-cooler pump too. I did the very common Bosch 010 pump upgrade but there are others. Now be aware that a higher flow IC pump is not always what you want. It's a balance between how long the coolant stays in the inter-cooler .VS. volume of flow. The fluid needs to stay in the cooler long enough to dissipate the heat. If the pump is running too fast you just blow the hot coolant right back into the system as there was not enough time to cool the fluid down as it passed thru the front mounted inter-cooler.
No one has done this yet but what's needed is some temperature probes to be installed pre and post inter-cooler to see what is actually happening with the fluid temperatures. So I installed the all Aluminum inter-cooler and the upgraded Bosch 010 pump but can't answer on the improvements with any accuracy? I do think it helped but these TS blowers are so resistant to heat soak I find it hard to tell and I live in a very hot place.
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Consider upgrading your inter-cooler pump too. I did the very common Bosch 010 pump upgrade but there are others. Now be aware that a higher flow IC pump is not always what you want. It's a balance between how long the coolant stays in the inter-cooler .VS. volume of flow. The fluid needs to stay in the cooler long enough to dissipate the heat. If the pump is running too fast you just blow the hot coolant right back into the system as there was not enough time to cool the fluid down as it passed thru the front mounted inter-cooler.
No one has done this yet but what's needed is some temperature probes to be installed pre and post inter-cooler to see what is actually happening with the fluid temperatures. So I installed the all Aluminum inter-cooler and the upgraded Bosch 010 pump but can't answer on the improvements with any accuracy? I do think it helped but these TS blowers are so resistant to heat soak I find it hard to tell and I live in a very hot place.
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If I am looking at all of this correctly, they are using an S V8 as their development car, which would have started at 495 hp per Jaguar. They indicate it made 508 hp baseline in their dyno test, so it looks like they are converting their wheel hp numbers to report as crank hp, and their dyno reads high (or Jaguar under-reported the S hp output). Using the S instead of an R definitely makes the gains look more impressive.
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RGPV6S (09-23-2022)
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If I am looking at all of this correctly, they are using an S V8 as their development car, which would have started at 495 hp per Jaguar. They indicate it made 508 hp baseline in their dyno test, so it looks like they are converting their wheel hp numbers to report as crank hp, and their dyno reads high (or Jaguar under-reported the S hp output). Using the S instead of an R definitely makes the gains look more impressive.
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