any way to disable spoiler on ftype?
#102
I was at my Jag dealer last year and asked my mechanic about stopping the deployment and he just opened the trunk and got to it from under trunk lid, rather than by having to lift the spoiler and mess with torx screws etc..
Soon as he started I was called over by a sales guy and missed the procedure, however I was back in 5 minutes and he was finished and all closed up... it stays down now.
Lawrence
Soon as he started I was called over by a sales guy and missed the procedure, however I was back in 5 minutes and he was finished and all closed up... it stays down now.
Lawrence
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Jkel72 (01-21-2023)
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I'm just curious to know how the insurance companies in the US or elsewhere will view such a modification to a car affecting its aerodynamic stability? In the UK, there is a clause in the auto policy stating that you must notify them of ANY non-standard mods or alterations to the condition in which a car leaves the factory (they may or may not increase the premium, depending). Without their approval, they may opt not pay out in the case of a claim. Insurance companies, worldwide, don't need much of an excuse to refuse a claim! Just curious.
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I'm just curious to know how the insurance companies in the US or elsewhere will view such a modification to a car affecting its aerodynamic stability? In the UK, there is a clause in the auto policy stating that you must notify them of ANY non-standard mods or alterations to the condition in which a car leaves the factory (they may or may not increase the premium, depending). Without their approval, they may opt not pay out in the case of a claim. Insurance companies, worldwide, don't need much of an excuse to refuse a claim! Just curious.
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Cassini (01-13-2017)
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So, disabling the spoiler (unless sanctioned by one's insurance company - which I doubt they will because it compromises the safety of a powerful road car) 'may' invalidate one's insurance. If so, it seems it's not a wise to thing to do, then.
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Well that didn't work!
Went down the local auto parts store and bought a set of Torx security bits.
None of them fitted, it seems the Jag screws are not the normal type. The T27 almost fitted but had no grip at all, just not the right shape.
Had a look at Lance's idea of accessing the plug from the underside - no chance without pulling off all the panels from the underside of the hatch, right up to the roof, not something I am game to have a go at.
Looks like I'm stuck with a normal operating spoiler for now.
Went down the local auto parts store and bought a set of Torx security bits.
None of them fitted, it seems the Jag screws are not the normal type. The T27 almost fitted but had no grip at all, just not the right shape.
Had a look at Lance's idea of accessing the plug from the underside - no chance without pulling off all the panels from the underside of the hatch, right up to the roof, not something I am game to have a go at.
Looks like I'm stuck with a normal operating spoiler for now.
I bought another set of Torx security bits, Fleabay cheapies, they rolled up today, but still no worky.
I then figured out my error - Torx are 6 point, the F-Type spoiler cover screws are 5 point "star".
So I've now ordered a set of these, they should get here in a week or two, then see how I go.
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Maybe some light at the end of the tunnel.
I bought another set of Torx security bits, Fleabay cheapies, they rolled up today, but still no worky.
I then figured out my error - Torx are 6 point, the F-Type spoiler cover screws are 5 point "star".
So I've now ordered a set of these, they should get here in a week or two, then see how I go.
I bought another set of Torx security bits, Fleabay cheapies, they rolled up today, but still no worky.
I then figured out my error - Torx are 6 point, the F-Type spoiler cover screws are 5 point "star".
So I've now ordered a set of these, they should get here in a week or two, then see how I go.
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OzXFR (01-18-2017)
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The main reason I haven't posted a picture of the actual harness I made is I don't want someone to duplicate and come blaming me if something goes wrong
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DPelletier (01-18-2017)
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Sure ANY modification COULD be used to try to deny coverage of any type be it warranty or insurance. .....wheel spacers, aftermarket rims, etc. etc.
I'd think the insurance company would a) have to even figure out the spoiler was disabled at the time of a crash (highly unlikely) and b) make a logical case for the aerodynamic change being the cause. Since the spoiler doesn't do anything at any remotely legal speeds except look cool, I wouldn't worry about it myself. .....OTOH if you plan on trying to set a Bonneville speed record in your F type you might want to carefully consider the ramifications of disabling the spoiler! ;-)
Disclaimer: the aforementioned verbal ramblings are the opinion of the poster only; disable your spoiler at your own risk. :-)
Dave
I'd think the insurance company would a) have to even figure out the spoiler was disabled at the time of a crash (highly unlikely) and b) make a logical case for the aerodynamic change being the cause. Since the spoiler doesn't do anything at any remotely legal speeds except look cool, I wouldn't worry about it myself. .....OTOH if you plan on trying to set a Bonneville speed record in your F type you might want to carefully consider the ramifications of disabling the spoiler! ;-)
Disclaimer: the aforementioned verbal ramblings are the opinion of the poster only; disable your spoiler at your own risk. :-)
Dave
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All the car insurance companies I've ever dealt with here in the UK have this as one of the first questions on the application form...
"Is the vehicle a standard production model?"
I think that if they discovered that you had altered the car they would not honour a claim. Just my 2c.
"Is the vehicle a standard production model?"
I think that if they discovered that you had altered the car they would not honour a claim. Just my 2c.
How far would you go with that? It's a massive grey area; aftermarket oil filter? drain plug gasket? window tint? tires? shocks? ......
Dave
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There is a billion dollar industry built around the automotive aftermarket. The SEMA show in Las Vegas is one of the largest trade shows hosted in that city taking up a million sq. ft.
I worked in the automotive industry for many years and guess what? I sold a ton of aftermarket parts to all kinds of dealerships for warranty repairs......all these parts were "aftermarket" i.e. non-OEM and their use could be considered a "modification" from factory delivered condition. In fact, I'd suggest that the vast majority of vehicles on the road today have at least one aftermarket part or component.
Almost all the local dealers showcase brand new vehicles (mostly 4X4's) with all kinds of aftermarket goodies installed like lifts, larger tires and wheels.
In theory, I'm sure that the insurers have such clauses in their fine print......but in practical terms, it just isn't a big issue.
Dave
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CharleyTX (02-24-2023)
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I agree .....
not trying to be argumentative but (here at least) millions of vehicles are equipped with aftermarket parts or otherwise modified without any notification to anybody without any real issues unless the modification is proven to be unsafe or the cause of a motor vehicle accident.
There is a billion dollar industry built around the automotive aftermarket. The SEMA show in Las Vegas is one of the largest trade shows hosted in that city taking up a million sq. ft.
I worked in the automotive industry for many years and guess what? I sold a ton of aftermarket parts to all kinds of dealerships for warranty repairs......all these parts were "aftermarket" i.e. non-OEM and their use could be considered a "modification" from factory delivered condition. In fact, I'd suggest that the vast majority of vehicles on the road today have at least one aftermarket part or component.
Almost all the local dealers showcase brand new vehicles (mostly 4X4's) with all kinds of aftermarket goodies installed like lifts, larger tires and wheels.
In theory, I'm sure that the insurers have such clauses in their fine print......but in practical terms, it just isn't a big issue.
Dave
There is a billion dollar industry built around the automotive aftermarket. The SEMA show in Las Vegas is one of the largest trade shows hosted in that city taking up a million sq. ft.
I worked in the automotive industry for many years and guess what? I sold a ton of aftermarket parts to all kinds of dealerships for warranty repairs......all these parts were "aftermarket" i.e. non-OEM and their use could be considered a "modification" from factory delivered condition. In fact, I'd suggest that the vast majority of vehicles on the road today have at least one aftermarket part or component.
Almost all the local dealers showcase brand new vehicles (mostly 4X4's) with all kinds of aftermarket goodies installed like lifts, larger tires and wheels.
In theory, I'm sure that the insurers have such clauses in their fine print......but in practical terms, it just isn't a big issue.
Dave
Dave, is correct. I specialized in Auto Accident, Insurance Fraud, Auto Theft and Auto Arson investigations, prior to my retirement. Insurance companies do not jam up a policy holder for doing sound modifications to the vehicle. That has been my experience in the TRI STATE area.
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DPelletier (01-18-2017)
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Dave, is correct. I specialized in Auto Accident, Insurance Fraud, Auto Theft and Auto Arson investigations, prior to my retirement. Insurance companies do not jam up a policy holder for doing sound modifications to the vehicle. That has been my experience in the TRI STATE area.
If performance mods negated insurance, not a single Harley accident would ever be covered.
Last edited by Unhingd; 01-18-2017 at 07:36 PM.
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