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I did buy a battery tender and this is what I have received.
All thread I have seen, shows a battery tender with a low voltage cable that include a connector and that is wired in the trunk.
This one instead is different. Can I actually charge the battery of my 2015 F-Type R connecting this charger on the cigarette port?
This should have come with a matching DIN socket that connects to the power lugs under the trunk cover and installs in a removable panel on the left side of the trunk. Look for installation instructions online.
You need to also purchase the installation kit (C2P25121) to go with the charger unit (C2P25122).
Only Jaguar would require 2 separate components to make one functional unit.
Depending on where you buy them, It seems the total price for the 2 parts is about the same as the CTEK
so far, after one hour, still blinking same way and detect the battery.
Tomorrow i will measure the Voltage of the battery once disconnected the battery tender.
Today was 12.01V before connecting it.
Originally Posted by scm
But will the socket still be live when the car goes to sleep?
Am I missing something here?
I know SFA about electronics but surely for a battery charger/tender/maintainer to do anything much especially recharge a flattish battery it needs to be powered from an external source and not from the car's own battery?
Edit:
Whoops, dementia creeping in, I was thinking that the 12v plug was where the power was coming from rather than where/how it is getting fed into the battery.
But that still raises the question of where is the power coming from, eg an external 120 or 240 volt power point, I don't see any such plug in the pics. I can only guess that the strange looking plug (underneath the 12v plug in pic #1) connects to such a power plug via another cable.
it has an american plug. in the picture you could still see the prongs protected with white plastic.
Originally Posted by OzXFR
Am I missing something here?
I know SFA about electronics but surely for a battery charger/tender/maintainer to do anything much especially recharge a flattish battery it needs to be powered from an external source and not from the car's own battery?
Edit:
Whoops, dementia creeping in, I was thinking that the 12v plug was where the power was coming from rather than where/how it is getting fed into the battery.
But that still raises the question of where is the power coming from, eg an external 120 or 240 volt power point, I don't see any such plug in the pics. I can only guess that the strange looking plug (underneath the 12v plug in pic #1) connects to such a power plug via another cable.
Yes, you are missing something OZ. If you look at the photo of the box open, you will see the two prong plug (North American spec) that connects to the mains (120 volts). This CTEK model is the one that all the luxury manufacturers from Aston to Bugatti to Bentley to Mercedes to Maserati....sold under their own label at more than double the cost of the same (very basic) CTEK unit bought elsewhere. I have one of these which I use on my (simple) Mk 2 and two of the much more advanced CTEK units for the more complicated F-Type and XJR, connected whenever the cars are not in actual use:
Yes, you are missing something OZ. If you look at the photo of the box open, you will see the two prong plug (North American spec) that connects to the mains (120 volts). This CTEK model is the one that all the luxury manufacturers from Aston to Bugatti to Bentley to Mercedes to Maserati....sold under their own label at more than double the cost of the same (very basic) CTEK unit bought elsewhere. I have one of these which I use on my (simple) Mk 2 and two of the much more advanced CTEK units for the more complicated F-Type and XJR, connected whenever the cars are not in actual use:
Double whoops!
My aged eyes saw that plug as a single rectangular piece, hence my term "strange looking plug", I simply did not see it as two prongs still covered with their protective plastic sheathes! It also didn't help that here in Oz nearly all power point plugs have three prongs although I did know that most plugs in the US have only two prongs.
I will now get back in my box and cease making any more silly posts in this thread!
Hard to tell from the OP's photo, but the cord that has the 12V male cigarette lighter type plug on the end looks like it is permanently attached to the charger body. If that is the case, buying the optional installation kit won't work unless that kit consists of a female 12V socket on one end and then a set of clamps for the battery posts, or ring lugs on the other end that connect under the storage bin in the trunk to a ground and the bus bar. That doesn't seem like a great design.
I think I would return it and buy the CTEK unit. I have one and it is installed similar to how sov211 shows his. A Forum search for CTEK will show several threads regarding the installation and operation of the unit.
how clever. here connected in the cigarette port (ignition off).
I was puzzled HOW or WHY this works because the sockets in my 2007 and 2014 XK's definitely shut down and cannot be charged like this. My Porsche Cayenne did accept this style because the luggage compartment socket was designed to stay 'live' with the vehicle shut down.
Having recently changed the Cayenne for an F-PACE, I had intended to use my CTEK MX5 connected to positive battery and negative ground stud until I saw this thread.
The F-Type and F-PACE both list this same C2P25122 battery conditioner from Jaguar. The common factor here is they are both Stop/Start and the electrics to the socket must be different to earlier models. A big plus is Jaguar have made a massive price cut on C2P25122 compared with earlier versions of the battery conditioner.
Does anyone have the F-Type Electrical Schematics available to check how the sockets are wired?
Hard to tell from the OP's photo, but the cord that has the 12V male cigarette lighter type plug on the end looks like it is permanently attached to the charger body. If that is the case, buying the optional installation kit won't work unless that kit consists of a female 12V socket on one end and then a set of clamps for the battery posts, or ring lugs on the other end that connect under the storage bin in the trunk to a ground and the bus bar.
I'd assume the fitting kit for that charger would have the socket as a panel mount fitted to a trunk panel which would then be hardwired to the car, like the CTEK ones. or maybe assumes a trunk mounted 12V socket that's permanently on to power e.g. a fridge?
IMO, if the cigarette socket works that is a good solution.
Easier than connecting in the trunk or under the hood (like my CTEK), assuming you are able to park out of the weather with the window cracked..
The Jag. charger actually costs less than the CTEK.
I might switch just for the convenience.
you can see here the charger in 2 states (connected on the cigarette port):
a) the car is open but ignition off. Only the orange led is fixed on;
b) the car is closed (using the remote). The green light is fixed on, the orange speed fast.
i need to check the meaning the user manual.
Originally Posted by scm
But will the socket still be live when the car goes to sleep?
I'd assume the fitting kit for that charger would have the socket as a panel mount fitted to a trunk panel which would then be hardwired to the car, like the CTEK ones. or maybe assumes a trunk mounted 12V socket that's permanently on to power e.g. a fridge?
Here's the installation instructions for the installation kit