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my F Type R AWD MY 2017 unfortunately slows down a bit at 28 °, because the compressor is getting too warm? Are there better coolers or what else can be done? Engine cover already gone, as well as SVR air outlets installed on the bonnet. I don't want to install a 200 cell catalytic converter because of the emissions test. Do you know the problem?
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Paramount (actually made by another company) has these improved charge coolers. You can check them out...

Jaguar F Type Charge Cooler Intercooler V8 - Paramount (paramount-performance.com)

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It would be nice if the cooling system could be isolated & the capacity increased. The ultimate solution is a Killer Chiller. With the Killer Chiller you remove the charge cooler radiator & install a large holding tank. The coolant is cooled by a remote evaporator prior to going into the charge coolers. The results are amazing, it is like driving the car on a cool fall day when it is 90 outside. I would like to find a way to do this on our cars.
 
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It would be nice if the cooling system could be isolated & the capacity increased. The ultimate solution is a Killer Chiller. With the Killer Chiller you remove the charge cooler radiator & install a large holding tank. The coolant is cooled by a remote evaporator prior to going into the charge coolers. The results are amazing, it is like driving the car on a cool fall day when it is 90 outside. I would like to find a way to do this on our cars.
Yeah...I use Water/Methanol injection and keeps it cool no matter how many pulls, or how long you drive it hard.

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Originally Posted by Therock88
Yeah...I use Water/Methanol injection and keeps it cool no matter how many pulls, or how long you drive it hard.

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Hello, do you have a GPS measured time of 100-200 km/h from your vehicle. I see you also installed the 200 cell catalytic converter.
Would be interesting to know what is possible. I think 6,8 sec. is possible...

Thank you so much

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Hello, do you have a GPS measured time of 100-200 km/h from your vehicle. I see you also installed the 200 cell catalytic converter.
Would be interesting to know what is possible. I think 6,8 sec. is possible...

Thank you so much

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Hi...

I have a draggy device, but have not done those specific pulls. I will do so when I have a chance some time. I did just have it at a 1/2 mile airstrip race, and it consistently got to over 151 MPH in 2640 ft.

F-Type R - No Fly Zone 1/2 Mile Races Midwest - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum

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I've been debating whether the extra capacity in coolant actually works efficiently due to the lack of surface area cold air actually can hit the intercooler. The small nose openings are in my opinion the biggest issue with engineering a proper cooling system. I may be way off on my assumption but common sense is pointing me in this direction. The car does well to manage temps at highway speed. Ex. doing a 100-200 km/h pull then slowing down to 100km/h and waiting a minute or so does make the second 100-200km/h time consistent.
 
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Originally Posted by Andi Jaguar G
Hello, do you have a GPS measured time of 100-200 km/h from your vehicle. I see you also installed the 200 cell catalytic converter.
Would be interesting to know what is possible. I think 6,8 sec. is possible...

Thank you so much

BR
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i've managed a 7.18 100-200kmh in my 650hp rwd R.
Can't get the power down for a decent start mind you, can't get under 4 secs for 0-60
 
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Hi,

what is your setup? 200 cell, VAP pulley and Software? 7,18 is in my mind good without 200 Cell Kat, But my problem is,
at 28°C temp. outside, I need one sec. longer as the 7,20 sec.
Yes I know, with my R AWD and round about 650 PS my best time 0-100km is 3,85 (0-60 mph 3,67 sec.) BUT at 18°C Temp.!!!
 

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Originally Posted by Therock88
Yeah...I use Water/Methanol injection and keeps it cool no matter how many pulls, or how long you drive it hard.

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did you custom tune for the water/meth setup? How are you injecting? Did you get a custom plate or drill and tap? Very interested!!
 
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