Blown Engine - 2017 F Type R
#121
07-04-2017, 12:41 PM
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+1 Isn't this the first blown engine story we have ever had here on the forum? I have been on here for 3 years and don't recall seeing any others... V8 or V6 and many on the site have tuned their cars.
VIN's are now running in the 50k range and at least 1/3 of them are V8's so even if we were to give JVII the benefit of the doubt and assume it was not from someone messing with the safety parameters and pushing the engine beyond its limitations it would still be a very rare and isolated incident.
There is just too much that we don't know about this whole story.
VIN's are now running in the 50k range and at least 1/3 of them are V8's so even if we were to give JVII the benefit of the doubt and assume it was not from someone messing with the safety parameters and pushing the engine beyond its limitations it would still be a very rare and isolated incident.
There is just too much that we don't know about this whole story.
Dave
#122
07-04-2017, 12:43 PM
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To be completely candid, I have been a member of this F-Type forum for over three years, since 2014, before the first Coupe was ever sold. I have seen as many as 10 different tuners show up here with promises of increased performance... each and every one of those offerings were quickly and summarily throttled by the more knowledgeable forum members, demanding documentation, dyno charts, tuning history and other proof of the validity of their claims, all aimed at one thing... the safeness and sanity of their tune! With one exception, every other tuner disappeared as quickly as they appeared on the scene, apparently overwhelmed and daunted by the pressure to prove themselves and their product.
The one tuner that not only survived the onslaught, they embraced the skeptical questioning with openness, transparency and integrity - Velocity AP (VAP) has built a credible following of satisfied F-Type customers and done so by offering a product which has proven time and again to be safe, and they've provided stellar customer service all along the way. To anyone considering a tune, I would not let this owners unfortunate plight deter you, but I would strongly recommend you choose to go with a well-proven commodity.
well said Mike.
Dave
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07-04-2017, 06:31 PM
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Funny how the OP started this thread on 30 June and responded a few times on the same day but has not been heard from since, and in the meantime the thread has grown to 122 posts. Given the lack of detailed information from the OP as to exactly what happened and exactly what "broke", we have all been guessing (some more educated that others) and going around and around in circles!
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#124
07-04-2017, 08:10 PM
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That is, Stohlen you only design cars and test them in some set of controlled circumstances with modeling thrown into the mix. Mechanics see QA results of your entire production run and that also includes "hold my beer" cases. They will know more about possible problems, what causes them, and this is relevant in cases like this.
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#125
07-04-2017, 09:07 PM
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Funny how the OP started this thread on 30 June and responded a few times on the same day but has not been heard from since, and in the meantime the thread has grown to 122 posts. Given the lack of detailed information from the OP as to exactly what happened and exactly what "broke", we have all been guessing (some more educated that others) and going around and around in circles!
Maybe he will come back and let us know the final outcome once its all worked out.
Lawrence
#126
07-05-2017, 10:02 AM
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Filing litigation and prevailing are two entirely different things. Litigation is costly and this is not something where a civil attorney is going to take the case on contingency. By the time the experts have been paid and a handful of depositions occur, OP could easily be over $30K before a jury was even seated...and a jury that senses the slightest bit of attitude is not going to be favorably inclined to award a dime, which means OP is then on the hook not only for their own expenses but also very likely will be saddled with the costs of the other party/parties named in the case.
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07-05-2017, 01:07 PM
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07-05-2017, 02:01 PM
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07-05-2017, 02:06 PM
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Cheers,
Dave
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07-05-2017, 02:23 PM
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#131
07-05-2017, 02:40 PM
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As a company, I wouldn't advertise the replacement of an engine (under warranty) either.
Also, for those who track their cars, Jaguar North America is now very strict on warranty claims.
Silliness, noscurdyjags? You're right, having an engine grenade a few months in is very silly.
Also, for those who track their cars, Jaguar North America is now very strict on warranty claims.
Silliness, noscurdyjags? You're right, having an engine grenade a few months in is very silly.
Cheers,
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#132
07-05-2017, 03:31 PM
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As a company, I wouldn't advertise the replacement of an engine (under warranty) either.
Also, for those who track their cars, Jaguar North America is now very strict on warranty claims.
Silliness, noscurdyjags? You're right, having an engine grenade a few months in is very silly.
Also, for those who track their cars, Jaguar North America is now very strict on warranty claims.
Silliness, noscurdyjags? You're right, having an engine grenade a few months in is very silly.
Sure a small number of people have had some problems with the car, some issues larger than the others, but it doesn't make F-type a bad car by any means, hell, I'm sure if you scour the Honda and Toyota forums you will find people having similar problems with their cars which are considered some of the most reliable cars on the market.
It happens, yea it sucks when it happens to you, but it happens.
Moving on.... I think we all need to just wait until the OP decides to update this stale thread with some more info, anything else at this point is just continued speculation...
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07-09-2017, 08:53 AM
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This came up in another thread
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...0/#post1717818
Note the special attention paid to 'chip tuning'. I think the OP doesn't have a leg to stand on.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...0/#post1717818
Note the special attention paid to 'chip tuning'. I think the OP doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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#134
07-09-2017, 11:27 AM
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I for one am still very interested to know what actually failed on this engine. And then perhaps one can know, or at the very least make an educated guess, as to why it failed.
Up to this point there has been no information on what parts are damaged and what items need to be repaired or replaced on the engine. To only state that an engine is "blown" is over simplistic.
What are the details????
Up to this point there has been no information on what parts are damaged and what items need to be repaired or replaced on the engine. To only state that an engine is "blown" is over simplistic.
What are the details????
#135
07-09-2017, 11:41 AM
I for one am still very interested to know what actually failed on this engine. And then perhaps one can know, or at the very least make an educated guess, as to why it failed.
Up to this point there has been no information on what parts are damaged and what items need to be repaired or replaced on the engine. To only state that an engine is "blown" is over simplistic.
What are the details????
Up to this point there has been no information on what parts are damaged and what items need to be repaired or replaced on the engine. To only state that an engine is "blown" is over simplistic.
What are the details????
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07-09-2017, 11:55 AM
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The OP admitted not being very mechanically oriented and was simply quoting some otherwise unknown third party 'guy'. A guy who also said that there is a well known design defect with the engine. Not very credible.
I agree we can only speculate. I suggest we blame global warming.
I agree we can only speculate. I suggest we blame global warming.
#137
07-09-2017, 12:05 PM
The OP admitted not being very mechanically oriented and was simply quoting some otherwise unknown third party 'guy'. A guy who also said that there is a well known design defect with the engine. Not very credible.
I agree we can only speculate. I suggest we blame global warming.
I agree we can only speculate. I suggest we blame global warming.
#138
07-19-2017, 02:10 PM
Hey Guys,
So I'm back. Apologize if I haven't responded to this thread. As I don't need the negativity of all the other forum members.
But all is good after XX,XXX amount of $$$$. Car is up and running, so I'll see the SoCal peeps this Saturday.
I appreciate the people that were nice on this forum trying not to be a GRANDPA.
So I'm back. Apologize if I haven't responded to this thread. As I don't need the negativity of all the other forum members.
But all is good after XX,XXX amount of $$$$. Car is up and running, so I'll see the SoCal peeps this Saturday.
I appreciate the people that were nice on this forum trying not to be a GRANDPA.
#139
07-19-2017, 02:38 PM
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