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Being at the Jaguar dealership yesterday, I browsed through the showroom killing time, as my car was being worked on in the service dept. I took notice of the new 2017 Range Rovers. Any model that was equipped with the 550 horsepower engine now has BREMBO brake as a standard setup. I was very surprised!
I saw this on the SVR Edition of Range Rover and also the Autobiography Edition Range Rover. I spoke with my guy at the dealer about the brake change for 2017 MY Range Rovers. Jaguar Land Rover decided to start using BREMBO brakes on the high end high power versions of there vehicles.
I asked my guy if the Brembo Brakes will be used on future F Type cars, asking him if the car will have these brakes for 2018. The sales manager said, it's highly probable.
Guys, if the Range Rover has BREMBO brakes, you know the F Type is next in line to start wearing Brembo shoes in 2018.
 
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Range Rover sport has had brembos since 2007 at least
 
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Yea the RR has had Brembo (front) calipers for years even on lower spec models. Very annoying that JLR used cheapo 2 piston TRW calipers on their top of the range sports car.
 
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I have Brembos on my 2006 RRS Supercharged.
 
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RRS V8 typically came with Brembo brakes standard for awhile. As for Jaguar...no Brembo unless you get the carbon ceramic brake package.
 
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Thanks for clearing that up for me. The sales manager didn't not mention to me that the Range Rover has had the Brembo Brakes for a while now.
 
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I wonder how the offset and mounting bolt centre distance compares?

The disc and wheel offset (plus shape of the inside face of the wheel) would also need to be considered, but it ought to be much less expensive than retrofitting CCBs.
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
I wonder how the offset and mounting bolt centre distance compares?

The disc and wheel offset (plus shape of the inside face of the wheel) would also need to be considered, but it ought to be much less expensive than retrofitting CCBs.
I looked into it and it will take quite a bit to retrofit ... including a master cylinder swap as well.

Right now now the best option would be to get enough interest for a group buy of 10-15 orders and have somebody design a balanced brake system with better calipers whether is be Brembo, AP, Alcon, etc
 
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Other than bling, what's the advantage of Brembo stuff?

Note that the S-type R had them from 2003 onwards, not sure about other Jag models.
 
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Originally Posted by Mikey
Other than bling, what's the advantage of Brembo stuff?

Note that the S-type R had them from 2003 onwards, not sure about other Jag models.
pad selection is for me the most important thing.

but the brembos are also either 4 or 6 piston calipers as opposed to 2 piston front and single piston rear calipers in our cars. In very basic terms ... you have a larger pad and the braking force is more evenly distributed across the pad, more friction is being created and better braking performance can be had.
 
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The partially hidden Brembo's on my Sport.



The Day I picked it up, just to include some F-Type content
 
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Originally Posted by ShaunPA
you have a larger pad and the braking force is more evenly distributed across the pad, more friction is being created and better braking performance can be had.
Total braking force is the same irrespective of one big piston vs. 6 little ones otherwise pedal effort is altered usually adversly.

Braking force available is always greater than the drivers pedal effort and/or tire traction (that's why we have ABS), so there's no net increase in braking performance.

Different brake feel can be achieved by using different pad materials.
 
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Yes, but they look good. So are clearly "better".

Maximising Piston area for a given calliper volume?
 
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Based on all your replies, the douche bag sales guy just yes me to death. He seemed to be in a rush to do something but that's no excuse to give me a bullshit answer. I'm new to the Jaguar Land Rover family coming from BMW, so i didn't know about Range Rovers having Brembo Brakes.
 

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Originally Posted by Ubad2
Based on all your replies, the douche bag sales guy just yes me to death. He seemed to be in a rush to do something but that's no excuse to give me a bullshit answer. I'm new to the Jaguar Land Rover family coming from BMW, so i didn't know about Range Rovers having Brembo Brakes.
When we first got our F-Type I knew very little about them, thanks to the very nice and knowledgeable People on here I know enough to get me through.

My Wife's last Car was a BMW, when we were shopping for an F-Type the only thing I was sure of is that it has to have a reversing Camera and parking aids, oh, and it has to be white with a V6 engine.

This is a great Forum populated with great Contributors, I learn something every Day. So thanks Guys!!
 
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In 2006 when the s/c line of rr and rrs came out, all front calipers were Bremo and marked brembo. I think around 08 or 09 the same calipers were labeled Rang Rover. I was told it was a branding deal and brembo wanted more for calipers if there name was on them. Now I am seeing brembo back as the label. Just a bit of worthless trivia
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
Yes, but they look good. So are clearly "better".
Exactly!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Stwsam
In 2006 when the s/c line of rr and rrs came out, all front calipers were Bremo and marked brembo. I think around 08 or 09 the same calipers were labeled Rang Rover. I was told it was a branding deal and brembo wanted more for calipers if there name was on them. Now I am seeing brembo back as the label. Just a bit of worthless trivia
You would think LR would get a discount for advertising their Brakes, but once I realized a long time ago, nothing make sense, so now everything makes sense
 
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Originally Posted by Mikey
Total braking force is the same irrespective of one big piston vs. 6 little ones otherwise pedal effort is altered usually adversly.

Braking force available is always greater than the drivers pedal effort and/or tire traction (that's why we have ABS), so there's no net increase in braking performance.

Different brake feel can be achieved by using different pad materials.
More pistons does help with heat transfer.
 
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
More pistons does help with heat transfer.
True but overheating calipers is not an issue with the standard brakes on Jags or street vehicles in general.
 



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