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Old 10-30-2023, 11:46 AM
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Hello Jaguar Group,
I recently had the infamous catalytic converter P0420 error code which is the Bank 1 catalytic converter. About a year ago, I had the P0430 code which was Bank 2 catalytic converter, so it was only a matter of time before the second one went. Unfortunately, this one is out of warranty and Jaguar wants 3000 dollars to replace the Catalytic converter (previous one was covered under warranty). I am now unsure what to do as I have a couple of choices.

Choice 1: Buy a new OEM catalytic converter for around 2000 dollars and install it myself.

Choice 2: Buy the VAP 200 Cell Catalytic converter and install both for around 1200 dollars?

My concern with choice 2 is emissions and it being way too loud. I live in PA so I am unsure if I installed the 200 cell cats whether I would pass emissions or not. Has anybody installed these 200 Cell Cats and not like it or thought it was too loud?

As far as choice 1, does anybody know of a place to order a OEM Bank 1 catalytic converter (T2R17114 I believe is the part #). Especially a place that has it on sale/discounted.

Just looking for overall thoughts. Also my car is a 2017, F-Type R Convertible.

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Old 10-30-2023, 12:09 PM
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I thought all emission equipment had a longer warranty?
8 year/80K miles?

Maybe talk to Jaguar?
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Old 10-30-2023, 01:36 PM
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Yeah, so I went to jaguar and the warranty is 7 years and my 7 years ended about a month ago keep in mind that although it's a 2017-year car it was purchased in late 2016, so that's when the warranty technically starts.
 
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Assuming you live in the USA (??), the federal warranty requirement for original equipment major emissions components, including the ECM, the OBD and catalytic converters is 8 years/80K miles.
JLR is wrong, or may be intentionally BS'ing you! You should definitely be getting the unit replace free of charge.
Your cats are still under warranty until 2024 unless you have accumulated 80K miles, and assuming they are the ones that came fitted on the new vehicle..

https://www.forbes.com/home-improvem...0module%20(OBD)
 

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Wow, ok I thought it was 7 years but it looks like it is 8 years so they must be trying to get out of doing the work. Well thank you for the information and help.
 
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I would try another JLR dealer.
 
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Gut your catalytic converters . This will solve your problem . You may require a tune to eliminate codes .
 
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Then try passing an annual inspection!!
 
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Gutted mine . No issues with passing TX inspections . Have tune .Car has great sound & runs extremely well ..
 
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If they are testing with a tailpipe sensor that won't work.
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In our TX state inspection is ODBll port & not tailpipe .
 
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Just found out that the converters for my 2016 F-Type R also need to be replaced (at only 40k miles, unbelievably). My warranty ran out three weeks ago! Talked, at length, to Jaguar yesterday, and they said they were sorry about the situation, but an end date is an end date. I'm not about to pay the $7k to replace these. Hopefully I can find an independent shop willing to just gut them and I'm told they can use software to eliminate the code. How much should that cost to have done?

When they gut them, do they put a straight pipe in place of the converters?

Where I live, there are no emission inspections, so no concerns there anyway.

Any help with this appreciated. Thanks.

 

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Gran Turismo: When you say your warranty ran out, do you mean the 8 years extended warranty on the emission system components including the cats?
If your car is less than 8 years old in US, Federal law requires JLR to replace the cats under warranty.

I have wondered whether the desire for exhaust sound results in premature cat death.
Do the open exhaust ports result in faster contamination of the converter catalyst?
 
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Originally Posted by CJSJAG
I have wondered whether the desire for exhaust sound results in premature cat death.
Do the open exhaust ports result in faster contamination of the converter catalyst?
The open exhaust valves don't matter-it's the pops and bangs that do it. Those are generated by raw fuel being dumped into the exhaust (which gets into the cats) on overrun which then ignites. It's the reason why if you go for the exaggerated 'pops and bangs' tune with VAP they have you agree that you understand it most likely can cause premature cat failure. JLR even reduced the pops and bangs with a software fix--partly for a noise ordinance and partly to preserve the cats. The newer cars have even less pops and bangs for this reason.
 
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Originally Posted by FlipJag
Gutted mine . No issues with passing TX inspections . Have tune .Car has great sound & runs extremely well ..
You know you are emitting a god awful amount of pollution, right?
 
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Originally Posted by CJSJAG
Gran Turismo: When you say your warranty ran out, do you mean the 8 years extended warranty on the emission system components including the cats?
If your car is less than 8 years old in US, Federal law requires JLR to replace the cats under warranty.

I have wondered whether the desire for exhaust sound results in premature cat death.
Do the open exhaust ports result in faster contamination of the converter catalyst?
Yes, the car went into service November 31'st of 2015. So the eight-year extended warranty ended three weeks ago. Thats what you call timing!
 
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Originally Posted by GranTurismo01
Yes, the car went into service November 31st of 2015. So the eight-year extended warranty ended three weeks ago. That's what you call timing!
That sounds like German engineering!
 
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Originally Posted by GranTurismo01
Yes, the car went into service November 31'st of 2015. So the eight-year extended warranty ended three weeks ago. Thats what you call timing!
November only has 30 days…
 
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Originally Posted by DJS
November only has 30 days…
Close enough for Jaguar to inform me, apparently.
 
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