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Remember that linked vid is for the 355 mm front brakes and you have the 380 mm.
Bigger rotors, bigger calipers, bigger pads, but the basics are the same.
Also the 380 mm fronts are twin piston while the 355 mm are single piston, and inserting the new pads into the 380 mm calipers is a bit different.
Make sure you take note of which is the inner pad and which is the outer pad when you remove the old ones and put the new ones in/on the right way around as they are not interchangeable (and from memory the 355 mm ones are).
Last but not least refitting the anti-rattle clips on the 380 mm calipers is a right royal PITA, much harder than the clips on the 355 mm calipers.
There is a technique/knack to it explained elsewhere on the forum.
There are quite a few threads and/or posts around here about changing the brakes pads, search and ye shall find.
Bigger rotors, bigger calipers, bigger pads, but the basics are the same.
Also the 380 mm fronts are twin piston while the 355 mm are single piston, and inserting the new pads into the 380 mm calipers is a bit different.
Make sure you take note of which is the inner pad and which is the outer pad when you remove the old ones and put the new ones in/on the right way around as they are not interchangeable (and from memory the 355 mm ones are).
Last but not least refitting the anti-rattle clips on the 380 mm calipers is a right royal PITA, much harder than the clips on the 355 mm calipers.
There is a technique/knack to it explained elsewhere on the forum.
There are quite a few threads and/or posts around here about changing the brakes pads, search and ye shall find.
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I am replacing the stock pads with Centric Semi-Metallic Posi-Quiet pads (to reduce brake dust), so the part numbers are different.
The pads I am installing are available through POSIQUIET - Centric Parts
I just confirmed the parts numbers I received are indeed for the 380mm front discs:
Front# 104.17500 Rear# 104.17530
Note on the EBC pads: I installed these on a few cars and had problems with what I thought was "warping" of the rotors after driving with them for a while. I found out that it was actually deposits on the rotor that were a result of not bedding the pads correctly. After re-turning the rotors I went out at about 3:30am and went through an intense process of speeding up to 80mph, then braking heavily (but not activating ABS) down to about 2mph, then again, and again... repeat. Never come to a complete stop with your brakes applied or you could warp the hot rotor. Smoke was coming out of the fenders on the last run(s).
After doing this I never had the "warped rotor" issue.
The pads I am installing are available through POSIQUIET - Centric Parts
I just confirmed the parts numbers I received are indeed for the 380mm front discs:
Front# 104.17500 Rear# 104.17530
Note on the EBC pads: I installed these on a few cars and had problems with what I thought was "warping" of the rotors after driving with them for a while. I found out that it was actually deposits on the rotor that were a result of not bedding the pads correctly. After re-turning the rotors I went out at about 3:30am and went through an intense process of speeding up to 80mph, then braking heavily (but not activating ABS) down to about 2mph, then again, and again... repeat. Never come to a complete stop with your brakes applied or you could warp the hot rotor. Smoke was coming out of the fenders on the last run(s).
After doing this I never had the "warped rotor" issue.
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I am replacing the stock pads with Centric Semi-Metallic Posi-Quiet pads (to reduce brake dust), so the part numbers are different.
The pads I am installing are available through POSIQUIET - Centric Parts
I just confirmed the parts numbers I received are indeed for the 380mm front discs:
Front# 104.17500 Rear# 104.17530
Note on the EBC pads: I installed these on a few cars and had problems with what I thought was "warping" of the rotors after driving with them for a while. I found out that it was actually deposits on the rotor that were a result of not bedding the pads correctly. After re-turning the rotors I went out at about 3:30am and went through an intense process of speeding up to 80mph, then braking heavily (but not activating ABS) down to about 2mph, then again, and again... repeat. Never come to a complete stop with your brakes applied or you could warp the hot rotor. Smoke was coming out of the fenders on the last run(s).
After doing this I never had the "warped rotor" issue.
The pads I am installing are available through POSIQUIET - Centric Parts
I just confirmed the parts numbers I received are indeed for the 380mm front discs:
Front# 104.17500 Rear# 104.17530
Note on the EBC pads: I installed these on a few cars and had problems with what I thought was "warping" of the rotors after driving with them for a while. I found out that it was actually deposits on the rotor that were a result of not bedding the pads correctly. After re-turning the rotors I went out at about 3:30am and went through an intense process of speeding up to 80mph, then braking heavily (but not activating ABS) down to about 2mph, then again, and again... repeat. Never come to a complete stop with your brakes applied or you could warp the hot rotor. Smoke was coming out of the fenders on the last run(s).
After doing this I never had the "warped rotor" issue.
I only got the second set because I bought them as part of a package deal with new slotted and drilled rotors (which are now on the F-Type) and they were advertised as ceramics but they were not, they turned out to be the exact same semi-metallics I already had. If I had known they were the same pads as I already had I would not have bought them. Yes, they are lower dust than the OEM pads but not by much, maybe 2/3 the dust, whereas true ceramics are about 1/4 the dust.
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I had the exact same pads on my old XFR, two sets in fact, and they are nowhere near as low dust as ceramic pads such as EBC Redstuffs or Porterfield R4S.
I only got the second set because I bought them as part of a package deal with new slotted and drilled rotors (which are now on the F-Type) and they were advertised as ceramics but they were not, they turned out to be the exact same semi-metallics I already had. If I had known they were the same pads as I already had I would not have bought them. Yes, they are lower dust than the OEM pads but not by much, maybe 2/3 the dust, whereas true ceramics are about 1/4 the dust.
I only got the second set because I bought them as part of a package deal with new slotted and drilled rotors (which are now on the F-Type) and they were advertised as ceramics but they were not, they turned out to be the exact same semi-metallics I already had. If I had known they were the same pads as I already had I would not have bought them. Yes, they are lower dust than the OEM pads but not by much, maybe 2/3 the dust, whereas true ceramics are about 1/4 the dust.
I am unfamiliar with Porterfield R4S pads.
Where did you get your rotors, and are you pleased with them? I might be interested in these after I install the 21" wheels...
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I went with the Posi-Quiet pads because I had good experience with them in the past and I had become a little paranoid over the EBC pads. I also had problems with EBC pads squealing like mad.
I am unfamiliar with Porterfield R4S pads.
Where did you get your rotors, and are you pleased with them? I might be interested in these after I install the 21" wheels...
Thanks,
Jay
I am unfamiliar with Porterfield R4S pads.
Where did you get your rotors, and are you pleased with them? I might be interested in these after I install the 21" wheels...
Thanks,
Jay
I also suspect they are fairly generic Chinese made rotors, exactly the same or near enough to the majority of after market slotted and drilled Jag rotors.
Thing is the XFR rotors (380 mm front and 376 mm rear) are identical in every way to the F-Type "super performance" rotors, so you should be able to get ones advertised as fitting the XFR for a bit less than those advertised as fitting the F-Type.
I'm very happy with them, good braking power, smooth even wear, low noise, and best of all they have barely worn at all (no lips that I can see or feel) after three years although I am a gentle braker and have done only some 25,000 km in that time.
Several F-Type owners have fitted the Porterfield R4S pads, lots of threads and posts on them here.
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I can confirm that the 32191C's are for the 380mm, these are the ones I got and they are too big for the standard 355mm set up..
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I know this is an old thread, but it seems most related to my situation. I also had the warning light come on indicating that my pads are low. Unfortunately, it didn't tell me if the fronts or the rears were low. My records indicate that I put Porterfield low dust pads on at 9,700 miles. I'm at 61,000 miles now, so I figured that it was probably the fronts that need replacing. I took off a front wheel and the front pads are still very thick. I then took off a rear wheel and the pads are indeed low. My F-Type is a 2017 S with a manual transmission and the Super Performance Braking Package. From what I understand, this means that I have the 376mm rears. Am I correct in thinking that the part number I need for the Porterfield pads is AP 1753 R4-S? Also, does the replacement sensor come with the pads or do I need to get them elsewhere?
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I know this is an old thread, but it seems most related to my situation. I also had the warning light come on indicating that my pads are low. Unfortunately, it didn't tell me if the fronts or the rears were low. My records indicate that I put Porterfield low dust pads on at 9,700 miles. I'm at 61,000 miles now, so I figured that it was probably the fronts that need replacing. I took off a front wheel and the front pads are still very thick. I then took off a rear wheel and the pads are indeed low. My F-Type is a 2017 S with a manual transmission and the Super Performance Braking Package. From what I understand, this means that I have the 376mm rears. Am I correct in thinking that the part number I need for the Porterfield pads is AP 1753 R4-S? Also, does the replacement sensor come with the pads or do I need to get them elsewhere?
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And it's not just down to traction control / DSC it's also due to anti-dive braking and the EPB.
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Just to make sure I'm not screwing up buying the wear sensors, am I correct that I need two? Do I also need to purchase wear sensor leads? They're shown as an option on LPIracing's website.
EBC Brake Pad Wear Sensor, Indicator (lpiracing.com)
EBC Brake Pad Wear Sensor, Indicator (lpiracing.com)
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Just to make sure I'm not screwing up buying the wear sensors, am I correct that I need two? Do I also need to purchase wear sensor leads? They're shown as an option on LPIracing's website.
EBC Brake Pad Wear Sensor, Indicator (lpiracing.com)
EBC Brake Pad Wear Sensor, Indicator (lpiracing.com)
Both are "all in one" i.e. the sensor lead and the clip are integrated.
So in your case you only need one sensor, a rear one.
The front and rear sensors are different coz the clips are different so a rear sensor will not fit on the front and a front sensor will not fit on the rear.
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