Hmmm, it seems mainly/entirely to do with the "dual battery", have you tried the ridiculously easy way to fully disable the secondary/smaller battery which takes it out of the system but doesn't effect anything else?
Just unhook the earth lead which runs from the negative terminal of the secondary battery from where it is bolted to on the floor of the trunk, a five minute job tops.

 

 

Sigh. I had a whole long thing typed out and it went away. Let's try this again. OzXFR I would try your idea but the car is in their hands and has been this time since 8/20. Unhingd, they have replaced that. Here is the list of what I know has been replaced.

Dual battery junction box
fusebox
converter-ax bat
alternator (although they put my original back in when it didn't work, and I seem to recall they were told again to replace it so no idea if it's the original still or new)
battery
gateway module
battery module
battery cable

This list is just through July 31 since that's the last time I have actual paperwork for. Since then I had the car in my possession for 10 whole days! The latest is that they have ordered and will be replacing the ground strap. There is an advanced technical specialist who is supposed to be coming to look at the car now. I know they had gotten to the point of pin testing wires because it was losing voltage leading to the ECM (that was the second replacement of the alternator, but again, don't know if the new one stayed in or not). They were also checking the pins in the connectors at some point as well if I remember all the emails right.

Since many suggested loose wire and/or ground, maybe it's something in this ground strap. I've become rather pessimistic about things right now though and am afraid that's too easy. Like I said late last week, I'm to the point of leaving all of this in my husband's hands. He is much better at peopleing than I am and he's better at making good decisions not based on things like "I love my car" like I do. I am kind of hopeful that worst case, they can work with corporate to get me into the one they have on their lot that is very similar to what I have now. Either way, I'd just like to have my car and get out of the string of SUV loaners. If I'd wanted a Disco, I'd have bought one. I'm so not an SUV girl.

 

We feel your pain and applaud your patience. I guess it's too late for a trip to the Carolina coast.

 

I feel her pain and applaud her patience, plus think she needs a really big hug; but, please, don't send her to the Carolina coast at this time!

 

Ha! Yes, a bit late for that, but there will be others coming in I'm sure! Hope you and all of your family/friends are ok after all that. I'll admit that when I had the Volvo (and started hating it), I might have parked in a spot where we knew big trucks were notorious for cutting the corner.

And fujicoupe, thanks, but trust me, I'm not being all that patient (just ask anyone around me), but yes, there are days I could definitely use some hugs.

I should be getting an update later today, but I don't even get my hopes up anymore. It's almost like my car has become all of the Georgia sports teams back when I was a kid - they didn't even get your hopes up back then like they do now.

 

Sorry to hear there is still no resolution! Hopefully, you'll have a car soon, either a new one (which I think is more likely) or yours finally repaired properly. Take a trip out to California to visit your husband's motorcycle and you can take the Pantera out for a couple of days. It is coming home this Friday or there will be a dead shop owner/mechanic where it is now. All the mechanicals,transmission, thermostat issues are finally fixed, and then the door handle snaps in half. Received the new one, but then back to the paint shop to paint the casing. It is never ending! Your patience is remarkable.

 

I've been watching to see if there was an update and you had your girl yet but didn't want to ask (I know how aggravating that can be to be asked over and over and over).

I don't think I'll make it out there for the motorcycle, but I do have tentative plans to be out there next July (Costume College). It would just be a long weekend probably but if I remember correctly, it's in Woodland Hills. So I could at least get to see your car!

As for patience - I have none. I'm doing like I said though and stepping back and going to let him handle things for me before I do finally lose my temper. I don't lose it often, but when I do it's usually pretty ugly. I'd rather not go there. Whether I get my car back, they get me into something else or just do a buy-back of some sort and I have to get something else entirely I'm leaving up to him. Obviously I really would prefer my car (or very similar) but if it's not meant to be, I'm sure I will find something else I'll like. It might not make my heart sing like the F Type, but I'm sure I could find something I could still have fun in. I'm just tired of it. YOU are the one with patience, as proven with the Pantera saga!

 

Woodland Hills is about 15 minutes away from where I live, and my office building is in Woodland Hills. But the best thing about Woodland Hills is that every Sunday morning there is a huge car gathering called Supercar Sundaywhere you'll see several hundred to a thousand cars of every make, model, and generation, loads of fun. My daughter is a very creative costume maker who would be very interested in a gathering related to costume making. As it gets closer, let me know if you're coming out.

 

Weird. I typed a reply to this 2 days ago and it seems to be missing. Basically, I will be out there for Costume College (if she's interested, it's costumecollege.net I believe - I'm currently almost shaking with a combination of emotions at the moment and don't feel like going to look again). We'll be in classes and stuff that Sunday, but I might add a day at the beginning or end of the trip to explore the area. If I do, I'd love to meet and see the car!

So, I was all set to go get my car this evening. Got the message that the fault is back. I am seriously restraining myself at the moment. I've asked my husband to call me when he has a break (he's got a long work day and doesn't deserve to have to deal with me like this) because I'm currently drafting an email to the Executive Liaison asking at what point they'll actually do something to make this right, pointing out that maybe the original selling dealer may have committed fraud (I have very strong suspicions about this now obviously, but won't go into it all right now and can't remember if I said anything before), and offering two solutions (one would make me very happy, one would be acceptable and I'd learn to live with it). I'm waiting to talk to him to see if he wants to send it or if he's ok with what I've said in it and me sending it.

So, let's say the worst happens and we force them to buy back the car somehow, any suggestions on a replacement? Obviously another brand because after this, if that's the outcome, I don't know that I'll trust them (and if I were to ever get another Jag, I'd just woman up and get an E-Type and wouldn't have to deal with dealership and all this crap since I could take it to a friend of a friend's shop or heck, even do a bunch myself since older cars are so much easier to work on in general). My criteria are convertible, fun, fast, I'd love manual transmission, but if it's a good, aggressive AT, I can certainly live with it (I had gotten used to it in this car) - when I was looking my other two criteria were back up camera and heated, leather seats (yes, I live in the south, but I'm a wimp about cold). I suppose I could always fall back to my "usual" Mustang, but I was enjoying having something not everyone had (yes, shallow maybe, but makes it easier to find yours in the parking deck if you don't have one of 15 Mustangs on the same level). Maybe I should have looked harder at a Vette (although I wasn't looking forward to being older and climbing in and out of that, but I'm short so it would probably be fine, right?

Hopefully they'll come through and something good will happen, but when someone sees you at work and stops and very carefully mentions that you look extremely angry, I think that's a sign that the unusual level of patience that's been shown so far (I have NEVER been known for my patience) is about at an end.

 

I feel your pain, but I think you've got a rogue car (and/or useless dealer) as the Jags I've had so far (2001 XK8, 2004 XKR, 2010 XKR) have been very reliable - the 2004 XKR let me down when it burst a pipe and dumped the engine oil over the road, but it had done over 90,000 miles so really due to age. And when the pipe was replaced and engine refilled, it was fine, much to the amazement of my mechanic. I've not had my F-Type very long, but so far no issues. The "Jag unreliability" syndrome is decades out of date, thanks in part to the Ford ownership period. I hope you can get your issues sorted out - that replacement vehicle would be my preferred outcome.

 

Believe me, I know that the whole Lucas thing is from long ago. I'm not saying Jag itself is unreliable (I have a friend who has one, although I can't remember what model his is, and I discussed this car with him before I even bought), but I am saying that if somehow they decide to do a buy back, this whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth and I'm thinking something else will be the choice rather than trying to find the right one again (took months the first time). I still love the car (I'm assuming since it has been 31 days at this point since I saw my car) and ideally would get mine back all fixed, but I'm suspecting now that is not going to happen so I'm doing my best to sit back and let him deal with them. I haven't had mine long either - 187 days in fact, 88 of which she has been in their shop for the exact same issue that they cannot seem to solve. My next choice would indeed be a replacement vehicle and the dealer who currently has mine has a suitable replacement currently for sale. I don't know if the parties involved will do that or not. I'm going to go home and get on my motorcycle so I can at least feel some wind in my face today.

Oh, and I'm also currently seeing red because they tried to tell me they'd only had my car 48 days..... No sir, I was still relatively calm at 48 days into this debacle.

 

Today's update is that now they've found a loose or bad pin in a connector to the aux battery. They've done something, blah blah blah and want to do a few more test drives today, tomorrow and Monday with the hope that I can get my car Monday afternoon or Tuesday some time. So, one of the first things someone mentioned (and I believe was mentioned to them, but honestly in them having the car almost 3 months total, I can't remember what all was passed on to them as far as ideas and suggestions), may be the issue. I'm pessimistically optimistic or optimistically pessimistic or something. We will see. In the meantime, I'll do some of the other things that bring me happiness and try not to think about it.

Oh, and in part of my spreadsheet update, I decided to see how many miles they've put on vs. how many I have since this started. I think they were at about 500 miles as of yesterday, and I think I've put on just under 750. Ok, getting mad again, so I'm getting back to work. I'll update y'all next week! Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

 

That is a lot of miles for test-driving in 3 months in my opinion

 

Are we sure no joy riding at this point

 

Well, the bulk of that was back at the very beginning and after I raised all kinds of hell about it, the mileage has been much more reasonable. In the first visit (2 weeks) they put almost 200 miles on the car and I pointed out that as my daily driver I don't put that much mileage on. I very much suspected at the time that someone decided to take the car home for the weekend and to show off, but no way to prove that. Assuming things work out and I either get this car back (fixed) or get put in another, I'm seriously considering going to Birmingham for future service needs. When I'm there for orientation for the new job at the beginning of next week I was thinking about checking them out. I know someone who bought his Rover there and plans to return there for service and lives here, so that says something about them I think.

I had actually thought about putting a GPS tracker in the car so I could tell when and where it was driven, but even the ones that claim long battery life would have long been dead even if I'd had a chance to hide one in the car.

Supposedly we will get an update today, so we'll go from there. Since it's supposed to rain all week, I figure they'll say everything is fine and about the time it gets sunny again the light will come on again. That seems to be the way my luck is going right now.

 

PBBarb, everything will work out for you eventually.
If it makes you feel better, which I'm sure it won't, my Maserati service department asked me if it would be all right for their head tech. to drive my car home overnight in an effort to find a persistent rattle in the dash, which by the way they had failed to fix on numerous occasions. No luck on that overnight foray, so they asked if he could drive it home again. I reluctantly agreed and when the car was returned to me after several days the rattle persisted. It turned out the tech. lived about 30 miles from the dealership so they put over a hundred miles on the car and never once offered to replace the fuel consumed. I eventually found the rattle myself and silenced it with a bit of strategically placed (stuffed in with a screw driver) sanding fiber material.
In the first six months I owned that Ghibli it spent 56 days in the service department requiring 10 round trips @ 170 miles per trip; so I drove at least 1700 miles for multiple problems which were seldom if ever fixed on the first attempt. The longest stretch without the car for me was 15 days.
You have my deepest sympathies, but at least you love your F-Type (or did); I never liked the Ghibli and was relieved to see it go.
Hugs

 

 

Yeah, it's cool seeing the driven routes. Onl;y thing I've noticed is that sometimes there's quite a delay in seeing the recent journeys in the app.

 

My method to retrieve the latest route is to close the InControl app and reopen it; otherwise it won't update. Jaguar really does need to effect some upgrades and improvements to their software. For example, several times over my five months of ownership InControl requires that I login afresh, even though the app is open and hasn't been closed recently.
On a different note, I read in the last couple days that Waze will be available on the Apple platform, but nothing was mentioned about the Android.