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Old 05-04-2016, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckingham
Can we correlate whether the clutch failure is in just S models or all MTs. It is possible JLR used the Volvo parts in S models due to the higher torque values just like they used slightly larger brake rotors. It seems from the small sampling that it is only S models.
Clutches are subject to torque limitations (not horsepower). As Foosh has observed, the 7 lb-ft differential isn't breaking the camel's back. It appears the problem is mostly limited to the early production models. The average conservative or inexperienced MT driver probably won't notice the weakness until much later. However, the first time someone with the weak clutch tries to hit the 5 second 0-60 mark, they'll stink up the neighborhood.
 
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Old 05-05-2016, 11:43 AM
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My manual is in for its second official visit to Jaguar service for the clutch issue... I've also involved Jaguar Customer Service, so hopefully this gets taken care of. I was informed by the service center yesterday that mine was only the second manual F-type that they had seen, so they are not at all familiar with the car... fingers crossed!
 
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Atomic
My manual is in for its second official visit to Jaguar service for the clutch issue... I've also involved Jaguar Customer Service, so hopefully this gets taken care of. I was informed by the service center yesterday that mine was only the second manual F-type that they had seen, so they are not at all familiar with the car... fingers crossed!
Good Luck. Hopefully you have similar success as Unhingd and SinF!!
 
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:22 PM
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hallelujah! Just got notification that the following parts are on order:
 
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:36 PM
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That's fantastic and another indication that JLR is at least tacitly admitting to the issue, and replacing the weak parts without argument.
 
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Old 05-05-2016, 03:45 PM
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The clutch part# appears to be different and why aren't they ordering the cylinder clutch? (JDE32591)
 
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Old 05-05-2016, 04:19 PM
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I am hoping that I can get the same outcome tomorrow. I have a 7:30 AM stop. I hope the clutch holds out long enough to get me back and forth a few times to the dealer.

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Old 05-05-2016, 04:24 PM
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I believe that is the correct clutch part number - the older clutch has an T2R18*** part number - so these numbers should be somewhat sequential...
 
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
That's fantastic and another indication that JLR is at least tacitly admitting to the issue, and replacing the weak parts without argument.
Went in yesterday. Friendly as hell, claim ignorance on this but didn't balk. Haven't seenany manuals. 1st appt the 12th, or 16th if I want a loaner. Sheesh

I had some hook up problems on a major steep incline onramp that spooked me, but what finally got me to go.... I have a metal twing vibration sound that sounds like it's coming from underneath the AC vent inside the dashboard console somewhere. I assume that's clutch related? It only happens on bumpy roads. Related?
 
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:48 AM
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Ok, Nessie is at Plano Jag this morning. I have to say that the staff there is friendly and polite. I also think that being equipped with Unhingd's receipt is like kryptonite. The fellow should seriously be knighted, granted sainthood and awarded the Nobel prize in automotive compassion.

I will report what they do with the clutch.

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Originally Posted by Smoke Em
The clutch part# appears to be different and why aren't they ordering the cylinder clutch? (JDE32591)
The clutch and flywheel numbers are the right ones. It's usually best practice to change the throwout cylinder every time you replace the clutch, but in this case since it is so new there is no real reason to replace it.
 
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:20 AM
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One other thing I thought I'd add: now that my F-Type transmission is on the way to being corrected (hopefully), it appears that Jaguar has started to get the appropriate parts into the queue for relatively quick resolution to the clutch issue. I'm told my car will be ready to roll by the middle of next week, so that will be a one week turnaround, if that estimate holds. That's a huge improvement over the month-long wait that Unhingd had to endure waiting for his parts - lets hope this is the case and not my dealer being overly optimistic.
 
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:50 AM
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This is all very good news. If 6 months from now, your manual F-Type "version 2.0s" remain bullet-proof with the new parts, I'll almost certainly be in the market for one.
 
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Old 05-06-2016, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Orkney
Ok, Nessie is at Plano Jag this morning. I have to say that the staff there is friendly and polite. I also think that being equipped with Unhingd's receipt is like kryptonite. The fellow should seriously be knighted, granted sainthood and awarded the Nobel prize in automotive compassion...
I'll see if Jay knows where to get a sword in Portland. Can't help with the later two.
 
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Old 05-06-2016, 02:56 PM
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One more bit of info that I thought might be helpful - I'm starting to think that involving Jaguar customer service is absolutely essential in getting this repair done. The dealers are relatively clueless about this clutch issue, but Jag isn't. The new part numbers are proof positive that they are aware of this issue. So, until there is a voluntary recall or, at the very least, a service bulletin about the issue, going through Jaguar Customer Service is highly recommended. Of course, Lance's invoice is every bit as important in making the case, as well...


Good luck!
 
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Old 05-06-2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Atomic
One more bit of info that I thought might be helpful - I'm starting to think that involving Jaguar customer service is absolutely essential in getting this repair done.
+1. I involved them as well to ensure that it wouldn't take months to get parts as first reported to the dealer by JLR parts supply.
 

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Old 05-06-2016, 03:30 PM
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So, an update on my repair. They are going to have the car over the weekend for the fuel filler SB, they are not able to reproduce the clutch problem. I think it's the same thing as Unhungd, they don't know how to operate a manual gear box car, and if they do, they are babying it because they don't want to trash some customer's $100K toy.

So they are not getting any slip, and as such, Plano Jag is politely telling me they can't reproduce the problem. Sadly my loaner is a somewhat smelly XF (no really, it smells.... off) rather than another F-Type. So maybe next week I can show them the clutch problem.

For those of you wondering, yes Texas also has a lemon law (like California). So if push comes to shove, I am hoping they would rather do a $3K repair rather than take the car back.

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Old 05-06-2016, 03:50 PM
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Orkney,

If I were you, I would go down there and demonstrate it for them.
 
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Old 05-06-2016, 04:03 PM
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Right you are, Foosh - going to do that to be certain. But at the moment she's apart getting the fuel filler SB applied, so no demo today.

Come Monday, it's time to show them what's what.

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Old 05-06-2016, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
+1. I involved them as well to ensure that it wouldn't take months to get parts as first reported to the dealer by JLR parts supply.
I'm not going to start calling you Sir Lance "a lot" for the rest of the Lobster Run so just at forget it! And Saint Unhinged just seems like a contradiction in terms.
 


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