Complete! Explanation of sport functionality, please
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I have the basic idea, but I'd appreciate a source that give ALL of the changes associated with the various sport adjustments: Dynamic vs. Normal, Sport vs. Drive, and DSC Off vs. TracDSC vs Full Nanny Mode. Any good factory reference material online?
One of the things that I'm quite curious about is, in full DSC mode, will the nannys will cut power drastically due to wheelspin, or simply limit power to what the tires can handle (dial it back just a little to regain grip). I was under the impression that the car cut power drastically only when a yaw problem was detected, and I'm getting drastic power cuts when there shouldn't be much of a yaw problem... and I often see the Traction Control working furiously when I accelerate without drastic power cuts. Maybe its saving my ***, cause from what I feel, I'd just keep it floored and trust my hands... and No, I am not yet comfortable enough with the limited rear grip to turn all of the nannies off, and I haven't worn out the Conti's yet, so no Michelin's for me yet.
I'd just like to know what the car is doing so I can learn how to drive around it...
One of the things that I'm quite curious about is, in full DSC mode, will the nannys will cut power drastically due to wheelspin, or simply limit power to what the tires can handle (dial it back just a little to regain grip). I was under the impression that the car cut power drastically only when a yaw problem was detected, and I'm getting drastic power cuts when there shouldn't be much of a yaw problem... and I often see the Traction Control working furiously when I accelerate without drastic power cuts. Maybe its saving my ***, cause from what I feel, I'd just keep it floored and trust my hands... and No, I am not yet comfortable enough with the limited rear grip to turn all of the nannies off, and I haven't worn out the Conti's yet, so no Michelin's for me yet.
I'd just like to know what the car is doing so I can learn how to drive around it...
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Sadly, I've seen no such reference. This is closest I've seen...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wskjex70o2...ntrol.pdf?dl=0
Note that the 'dynamic launch' mentioned only applies to the V6S.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wskjex70o2...ntrol.pdf?dl=0
Note that the 'dynamic launch' mentioned only applies to the V6S.
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Thanks for the link, but I'd really prefer a lot more detail than that...
Fairly soon after I leave home, I have a Stop Sign before turning onto a two lane road (one each way) with traffic going between 60 and 70 MPH in a steady stream from both directions. I've been experimenting with techniques that will allow me to merge into traffic ;-)).
When I go in 1st, I get entirely too much wheelspin. If I short shift to 2nd, I can get on the gas harder and earlier, but sometimes I get the big power lag. I could still be turning a little, but not much... I really wish that I didn't have to be completely straight before hammering it.
I really respect the guys that can really hammer the big V-8s - if I have problems putting down 340 hp, the big cats must really have problems!
Fairly soon after I leave home, I have a Stop Sign before turning onto a two lane road (one each way) with traffic going between 60 and 70 MPH in a steady stream from both directions. I've been experimenting with techniques that will allow me to merge into traffic ;-)).
When I go in 1st, I get entirely too much wheelspin. If I short shift to 2nd, I can get on the gas harder and earlier, but sometimes I get the big power lag. I could still be turning a little, but not much... I really wish that I didn't have to be completely straight before hammering it.
I really respect the guys that can really hammer the big V-8s - if I have problems putting down 340 hp, the big cats must really have problems!
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Wish i had the ***** to shut if off completely...
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The only time I don't drive in TracDSC is inclement weather. I find the power cut too abrupt and more upsetting than slip or spin.
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How much "tail sideways" would you say it gives you? Would you still consider it fairly safe with TracDSC? Or do you really have to be an experienced driver to handle it?
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Would like a big parking lot to play in, to get a feel for the limits of traction. I've tracked it a couple of times (in TrakDSC), but I wasn't willing to explore the limits there, as there may have been consequences.
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Likely depends on whether you're talking V6 or V8. I believe my LSD catches me before the traction control does. I'm a cautious driver, but occasionally I feel just a bit of spin/slide before it grabs.
Would like a big parking lot to play in, to get a feel for the limits of traction. I've tracked it a couple of times (in TrakDSC), but I wasn't willing to explore the limits there, as there may have been consequences.![Smile](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Would like a big parking lot to play in, to get a feel for the limits of traction. I've tracked it a couple of times (in TrakDSC), but I wasn't willing to explore the limits there, as there may have been consequences.
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Even on the V6, if you turn traction control all the way off, it becomes entirely possible to lose control entirely.
TracDSC is great in the dry. It'll let the car get sideways in a turn, let it slip a bit on launch, but it'll catch you before you go sideways.
However, TracDSC is not magic. In wet weather (or with some effort,) you can still definitely get yourself in trouble.
For anything other than donuts, I won't turn traction control all the way off.
TracDSC is great in the dry. It'll let the car get sideways in a turn, let it slip a bit on launch, but it'll catch you before you go sideways.
However, TracDSC is not magic. In wet weather (or with some effort,) you can still definitely get yourself in trouble.
For anything other than donuts, I won't turn traction control all the way off.
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Even on the V6, if you turn traction control all the way off, it becomes entirely possible to lose control entirely.
TracDSC is great in the dry. It'll let the car get sideways in a turn, let it slip a bit on launch, but it'll catch you before you go sideways.
However, TracDSC is not magic. In wet weather (or with some effort,) you can still definitely get yourself in trouble.
For anything other than donuts, I won't turn traction control all the way off.
TracDSC is great in the dry. It'll let the car get sideways in a turn, let it slip a bit on launch, but it'll catch you before you go sideways.
However, TracDSC is not magic. In wet weather (or with some effort,) you can still definitely get yourself in trouble.
For anything other than donuts, I won't turn traction control all the way off.