Considering Upgrading from V6 to an "R"
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Considering Upgrading from V6 to an "R"
I am looking for a little insight from "R" owners, or people that have driven both the "R" and the V6's.
I currently own a 2015 V6 and am considering upgrading to an "R" for the extra power, performance features, and model year upgrades it offers. I haven't had the chance to drive an "R" yet, but from what I have read in the reviews it's a completely different driving experience from the V6's... is there a lot of truth to this?
I currently own a 2015 V6 and am considering upgrading to an "R" for the extra power, performance features, and model year upgrades it offers. I haven't had the chance to drive an "R" yet, but from what I have read in the reviews it's a completely different driving experience from the V6's... is there a lot of truth to this?
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I haven't driven the V6 so I can't directly answer your question...but I did come from a 2013 Porsche 911 (991) C2. It's a different type of engine than the Jaguar's V6 (less torque, higher revving) but overall the 991 C2 is slightly faster than the F-Type V6/V6S variants so I can draw some comparisons. It's night and day from the 991 C2 to the F-Type R. The power is just another level. I was never "scared" of the 991 C2's power. In the R I am always very aware that I'm driving a monster of a car. Not to say I can't just cruise around. But in Dynamic + S Mode the car is just an absolute straight line monster. This may or may not appeal to you. I don't think the vast majority of owners can tell the difference with the suspension, torque vectoring, etc. over the V6. In fact, the V6 is probably a better driving car because of the lower weight (think 200-300 pounds lighter than the V8). But the power is another story. I saw this video earlier today between the V6 and V8S (less power than the R). The V6 looks like it's standing still. If brutal acceleration appeals to you then yes, it's a completely different driving experience.
Last edited by shift; 07-31-2015 at 04:51 PM.
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MI-FType (08-08-2015)
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20 years ago, I would have bought the R, no question.
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1965 Shelby Mustang GT-350
1965 Shelby Cobra 427 SC (replica) w/ original side-oiler
1969 Camaro Convertible SS 427
2005 Lotus Elise
2006 C6 Z06
2006 Audi RS4
That's three 7 liter V8s (nearly 500 HP or over) in the same fleet and 2 smaller (400 HP) ones. The Lotus was my favorite to drive hard, however, foreshadowing my future.
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LOL . . . you should have seen my list from 10 years ago. I think you would have approved. With age comes, "been there, done that, time to do something different."
1965 Shelby Mustang GT-350
1965 Shelby Cobra SC (replica) w/ 427 side-oiler
1969 Camaro Convertible SS 427
2005 Lotus Elise
2006 C6 Z06
2006 Audi RS4
1965 Shelby Mustang GT-350
1965 Shelby Cobra SC (replica) w/ 427 side-oiler
1969 Camaro Convertible SS 427
2005 Lotus Elise
2006 C6 Z06
2006 Audi RS4
I'm certainly getting older, but right now, while fighting through a mid life crisis, it's more like, "let's do all the things I haven't yet, before I get too old to enjoy them!"
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Cheers, I do remember that stage and enjoyed the hell out of it. Fortunately, I'm enjoying the hell out of this one too, especially my current vehicle w/ 1300 ft. lbs. of torque and all the comforts of home. Of course, it does weigh 42,000 lbs.
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Thanks guys, I am appreciating the input. So far, it's sounding like the R may be the way to go. I also came from an American muscle, fast straight line background in my previous cars. I love the refinement of the V6, but kind of yearn for that extra "oomph"... especially with all of the muscle Detroit is putting out now with the Corvette, Cadillac V's, Challenger, Camaro and Mustangs.... not that there is much room for comparison vs the Jag, it seems I am constantly challenged every time someone pulls up next to me.
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+1 on this. I drove v6 prior to the 'R' and this moved the Jag from #3 on my list to #1 and ended I up buying it and loved it ever since.
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MI-FType (08-08-2015)
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I got my V6 base in May, and the irrational part of me wishes or wants to move to an R. I experience the same thing, every light and corer there is a mustang, camero or challenger that wants to go. I am not that guy to be honest but at times you want the extra power. You will all laugh, but my last car was a 137hp Hyndia Veloster, so moving to 340hp was a step up for me and is the most powerful thing I have ever owned. I will continue to look into doing some mods on my V6 to give it a little juice. Again don't laugh too hard at my Veloster lol
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Thanks guys, I am appreciating the input. So far, it's sounding like the R may be the way to go. I also came from an American muscle, fast straight line background in my previous cars. I love the refinement of the V6, but kind of yearn for that extra "oomph"... especially with all of the muscle Detroit is putting out now with the Corvette, Cadillac V's, Challenger, Camaro and Mustangs.... not that there is much room for comparison vs the Jag, it seems I am constantly challenged every time someone pulls up next to me.
The R feels so much faster than the V6S, it is like night and day. Yes it is a bit heavier up front, and yes you can feel it if you really try, but the handling hides it well. Between the electromechanical LSD, torque vectoring, and AWD, the R is amazingly well planted in the corners and lets you push the car much harder than I would have in the V6S. IMO the V8's deeper more throaty engine note also sounds much better than the V6, but your opinion may differ.
Then again, the R is quite a bit more expensive. Doubly so if you factor in the depreciation and tax loss from trading in a 1 year old car. But if it were me, I'd probably do it. Then again cost wasn't my top concern when I decided to start looking for a convertible sports car with supercar-level performance, but still civilized and comfortable enough to be a good daily driver. If the FTR wasn't available, I'd probably have either gone with the C7 Z06 or a 911 Turbo Cabriolet. After seeing all the issues with the C7 overheating, it would have come down to the 911. I'm glad the FTR was available when I wanted it.
In any case, I obviously ended up with the FTR and don't regret my choice. It looks stunning, sounds amazing, and accelerates off the line like being fired out of a rifle. Of course, the AWD models don't light up the tires and leave a smoke screen behind you like the RWD models do, and from what understand it isn't as easy to drift in the AWD models since the AWD rotates you through corners. But I don't care about either of those things, and appreciate the extra longevity in my tires.
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I was a passenger in a V-6 with someone that races and it was fast and lots of fun.. however absolutely no comparison to the pure acceleration and deep growl of the 8.
My R is so far, the best car of its class that I have driven or ridden in from an overall experience point of view... so, I prefer it to the AMG's, Porsche and also the F type v-6.
Lawrence.
My R is so far, the best car of its class that I have driven or ridden in from an overall experience point of view... so, I prefer it to the AMG's, Porsche and also the F type v-6.
Lawrence.
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MI-FType (08-08-2015)
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Considering Upgrading from V6 to an "R"
Could anyone comment on this same question from the context of using the car as a daily driver in a northern climate that sees a fair amount of slippery roads in the winter?
My left brain wants the R. My right brain says the V6S AWD is the only rational choice. I'm really torn.
This will be my only car. Stupid 2-car garage.
My left brain wants the R. My right brain says the V6S AWD is the only rational choice. I'm really torn.
This will be my only car. Stupid 2-car garage.
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Could anyone comment on this same question from the context of using the car as a daily driver in a northern climate that sees a fair amount of slippery roads in the winter?
My left brain wants the R. My right brain says the V6S AWD is the only rational choice. I'm really torn.
This will be my only car. Stupid 2-car garage.
My left brain wants the R. My right brain says the V6S AWD is the only rational choice. I'm really torn.
This will be my only car. Stupid 2-car garage.
The only issue I can think that might be a problem would be DEEP snow. Any low ground clearance sports car becomes a snow plow in deep snow...
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Could anyone comment on this same question from the context of using the car as a daily driver in a northern climate that sees a fair amount of slippery roads in the winter?
My left brain wants the R. My right brain says the V6S AWD is the only rational choice. I'm really torn.
This will be my only car. Stupid 2-car garage.
My left brain wants the R. My right brain says the V6S AWD is the only rational choice. I'm really torn.
This will be my only car. Stupid 2-car garage.