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Old 06-29-2021, 06:37 PM
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I was pretty happy with my 2015 F type( 6cylinder) with only 42,000 miles until my engine light turned on. The fuel injectors exposed to hood vents allows water to enter and eventually seep into injectors and cause corrosion.. The only 2 that looked ok were the two injectors sitting away from the vents. This is a design flaw that I believe was fixed in later models.
Unfortunately a corroded/oxidized fuel injector broke off and I now have a 14,000 dealer fee to fix. This is on top of 3700 bill. This is crazy and I really think is a design flaw In jaguar F type. I have seen some comments in other forums with similar problems. Awaiting feedback from Jaguar USA-andy feedback from members.
 
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:12 PM
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If you are paying $14,000 USD to get injectors replaced, you are being outrageously ripped off.
 
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Csanch
The only 2 that looked ok were the two injectors sitting away from the vents. This is a design flaw that I believe was fixed in later models.
Not sure about later RWD models, but in the AWD the vents are further down the hood/bonnet so well away from injectors. And there are rubber shields under the vents, too.
 
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Old 06-30-2021, 07:52 AM
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If you are paying $14,000 USD to get injectors replaced, you are being outrageously ripped off.
If an injector broke off inside the combustion chamber, isn't pulling the cylinder head necessary to retrieve it?

Also, I understood that stubborn fuel injectors were a result of carbon build up on the inside. That is why I religiously apply BK44 and CRC Intake Cleaners, yearly.

With proper soaking with a penetrant and the appropriate approved puller, they SHOULD come out. SHOULD is the key word...if a shop/dealer was impatient....
 
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Old 06-30-2021, 10:43 PM
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Did you try removing it yourself and it broke? Cause if the dealer broke it then it’s on them.
 
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This is a common issue with these cars unfortunately. I use fuel injector cleaner once every few months before filling up, but not sure if it does anything honestly
 
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Originally Posted by Carbuff2
If an injector broke off inside the combustion chamber, isn't pulling the cylinder head necessary to retrieve it?

Also, I understood that stubborn fuel injectors were a result of carbon build up on the inside. That is why I religiously apply BK44 and CRC Intake Cleaners, yearly.

With proper soaking with a penetrant and the appropriate approved puller, they SHOULD come out. SHOULD is the key word...if a shop/dealer was impatient....
This is not always the case. I had one where the injector was rusted to the head. I had to use a punch and hammer, with the head off to even get it to budge. I tried for three days with every chemical available to loosen it, nothing.
 
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If these amounts for repair are correct ($14,000 += $3700), the OP (which I have not seen any responses from BTW) would essentially be paying over 1/2 of the vehicles value to repair an injector?? This would be considered a Total Loss in most/many cases...

I do, however find it unlikely that it would be $14K to fix it. You could just buy an entire new head, and injectors and replace the whole thing for much less! A brand new Cylinder head is ~$2000 + Injector (which I assume was already purchased for the switch?) + labor...Not even close
to $14K. Labor @ $200 / Hr. even would have to be 70 Hrs.??? Seems crazy.

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I just had all 8 injectors replaced at a local shop for $2500. But none of them broke off in the head, so...
 
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Originally Posted by Csanch
I was pretty happy with my 2015 F type( 6cylinder) with only 42,000 miles until my engine light turned on. .

Unfortunately a corroded/oxidized fuel injector broke off and I now have a 14,000 dealer fee to fix. This is on top of 3700 bill.
Sorry for your issue Csanch..

You added neither $ nor £ so could those prices be South African Rand? (ie $978)

I see your one post ever here was 2 days ago..

How long have you owned your '15 X152?
 

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I had a very similar experience. I have a 2017 F-type S 6MT with no modifications. It has 48k miles and I am the second owner.

flashing check engine light, diagnosed as a failed injector. Dealer could not get the injector removed, had to remove the head and found corrosion in and around the injector and an adjacent cylinder’s injector. Jaguar UK authorized the entire head replacement along with various other components that had been found to be rusted and stuck.

They billed about 30 hours, but the main section of the repair order had no hours marked. I can imagine the bill would have been in the same ballpark had it not been under warranty.
 
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So to check further...I looked up the Jaguar Book/Service Manual times and full Dealer Prices. I duplicated labor (additional) for all 3 injectors on top of R&R Cylinder Head and Gasket change and other included operations like leaning Carbon, Valve adjustments, and Plugs. I used $200/HR and attached is the total estimate I could come up with, which again includes (too much - duplicate labor). I still do not see how they would get to $17,700??!!

Even a complete Engine Removal and Install with Overhaul has a quoted labor time of 36.1 Hours...

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Would the issue of corroded injectors be a good reason not to remove the plastic supercharger cover ? I removed mine for the reported improvement in engine cooling but it is easy enough to pop right back on.
 

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Originally Posted by Therock88
So to check further...I looked up the Jaguar Book/Service Manual times and full Dealer Prices. I duplicated labor (additional) for all 3 injectors on top of R&R Cylinder Head and Gasket change and other included operations like leaning Carbon, Valve adjustments, and Plugs. I used $200/HR and attached is the total estimate I could come up with, which again includes (too much - duplicate labor). I still do not see how they would get to $17,700??!!

Even a complete Engine Removal and Install with Overhaul has a quoted labor time of 36.1 Hours...

DC
Yeah i agree with you on the pricing. The time has a lot of duplicate. R&R fuel injectors would be cancelled out due to the fact that to set basic timing of cylinder head, both valve covers need removal. Injectors need removal to pull valve cover. Trust me i just did one for this reason two weeks ago. All the individual parts are like $3500-4K with head replacement and 25-28 hrs. I still cant see it being over 10k with parts and time. An indy dealer uses aftermarket time book which may be 1.2x warranty time still shouldn't get anywhere close to that..
 
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