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Old 01-17-2024, 08:29 PM
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Yep, that extra 1.65 litres is in the engine, in the oil galleries.
See here for an explanation of oil galleries: https://lambdageeks.com/oil-gallerie...ir-importance/
Nice! Good info and thanks for the explanation and link!
 
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Beautiful MGB. I bought one new in 1974 and drove it as my daily car for 31 years, winter and summer. Abominable build quality (British Leyland days, and the Jags built under British Leyland in the 70’s were almost as poorly built, providing the basis for the continuing myth about Jaguar quality). But mechanically, that MGB was a gem, and tons of fun.
PS- 31 years with MGB! That is most impressive! I have experienced the same thing with the MG. Simplicity of design, straight forward mechanics, easy to work on and maintain.

A common man's sports car. They were a great era in automobile history.
 
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I changed the factory fill oil on my 2021 F Type R at about 2750 miles. I used a Mityvac to suck out as much warm oil as I could after allowing some time for the oil to drain down into the sump and then changed the filter as well. Following the service instructions to a "T" I poured a few ounces down into the filter housing before installing a new filter, and then added the remainder of (6) one quart bottles plus another 16 ounces using a graduated measuring container.

I figured that was as close to the 6 quarts 29 ounces capacity as I dared to add. Checking the oil level after starting the car, letting it run for a minute and then waiting a half hour showed the oil level right at the MAX mark. And it continued to stay at that level each time I checked it. Until the dealer overfilled it when I took it in for the free scheduled maintenance.......

I'll definitely be doing my own maintenance once the warranty expires. A Mityvac, along with a good quality torque wrench designed to read lower ft/lbs and inch/lbs levels and not to torque lug nuts at 120 ft lbs for example, a funnel, an oil filter housing cap wrench for a socket wrench driver and a graduated measuring container is all you need to do an oil & filter change with surgical precision. And you will know it is done right.
 

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And an oil change at home costs 1/4 the dealer cost and takes less time, too. From start to finish, it only takes about 20 minutes and you don't even get your hands dirty. It takes me longer than that to drive to and from the dealer.
 
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I will also add that as I approach age 69 not having to pull the car up on ramps, slide around on a cold concrete floor, remove the underbody aerodynamic panels, slide a drip pan under the car, pull the drain plug and wrench the old filter off, scrape my knuckles and burn myself on a hot component or hot oil, button everything back up again and refill the sump, and then take two Advil and a nap is a welcome relief.

The Mityvac is well worth the expense and doing an oil change on the Jag is actually a pleasure.
 
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Sounds so good, Dwight, I can't wait to start to begin doing my own once my free oil changes end!!
 
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Nice MGB. I've had two, one when I was in high school and one more recently. Great cars, easy to work on, simple electronics, and can be driven at 10/10ths on normal roads without danger to oneself or others.

I've got 60k miles on my F-type Firesand. Looks like you got a great deal. Enjoy.
 
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I never owned an MG but did own a couple of Spitfires and a TR6.
They were easy to work on, and I was never at risk of overfilling the oil.
Because they all leaked and burned so much!!
But those were the days!!
 
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I never owned an MG but did own a couple of Spitfires and a TR6. They were easy to work on, and I was never at risk of overfilling the oil. Because they all leaked and burned so much!! But those were the days!!
Ha ha! Right? How I recall the Triumphs and Norton motorcycles my brother and friends had back in the day that were non-stop leakers. Honda's finally upped the game along with the other Asia imports.

Our British Motoring Club of Northern Colorado has an annual "Oil Spot Rallye" where after a circuit ride throughout the foothills, we stop at a sizeable vacant area to break out (along with eats and drink) a large roll of white butcher paper. They proceed to cut 4'-5' foot lengths to place under the vehicles. After festivities, the winner of the largest oil spot gets the most artistic award prize! Unfortunately (or fortunately), mine only has a drip or two (out of the side block cap that is a pain to access and I CANNOT get sealed). Oh well, let 'er drip and relax, eh?

This year's winner.... a young couple which is encouraging to see the torch being passed to the youth carrying forward the craft!




 

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye
I will also add that as I approach age 69 not having to pull the car up on ramps, slide around on a cold concrete floor, remove the underbody aerodynamic panels, slide a drip pan under the car, pull the drain plug and wrench the old filter off, scrape my knuckles and burn myself on a hot component or hot oil, button everything back up again and refill the sump, and then take two Advil and a nap is a welcome relief.

The Mityvac is well worth the expense and doing an oil change on the Jag is actually a pleasure.
Just checked out the Mighty Vacs - can you tell me which one you have? There are a lot of different models with prices all over the place. 67 here and don't like crawling around on the garage floor either!
 
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I got the 7201. Tried to post an Amazon link, but that doesn’t seem to work anymore.
 

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Just checked out the Mighty Vacs - can you tell me which one you have? There are a lot of different models with prices all over the place. 67 here and don't like crawling around on the garage floor either!
I picked up this one recently that has a capacity of 9.2 quarts (8.7 liters) and well built:
Amazon Amazon
 
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I also have the Mityvac 7201. If you have shop air available there is another model that hooks up to your compressor. I don't and don't find the bicycle pump type handle an problem to use.
When I bought mine in 2021 it was around $90 if I recall. I guess Bidenflation has taken effect since it is now $122. Good thing there is free shipping.

 
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I also have the one that has the option to use compressed air. MUCH easier to use. I can set it and walk away while it does the extraction. You will get tired real quick using the hand pump! Mine is just a no-name chinese version but so far it has been fine. Yes lots of inflation but we have been assured it has been fixed.

Same as my 20T press. The standard hand pump is a lot of work. I put an air over hydraulic jack in place of the manual one. Nice improvement.
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I also have the one that has the option to use compressed air. MUCH easier to use. I can set it and walk away while it does the extraction. You will get tired real quick using the hand pump!
With the MityVac manual hand pump version, you literally only need a few pumps to get the siphon action going and then physics does everything else. No more than 4-5 pumps and you're done and you can walk away during the extraction also. I never understood why you would want the air compressor version as it would take longer and way more effort to drag out the compressor than to just do a couple quick hand pumps.
 
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Originally Posted by Thunder Dump
With the MityVac manual hand pump version, you literally only need a few pumps to get the siphon action going and then physics does everything else. No more than 4-5 pumps and you're done and you can walk away during the extraction also. I never understood why you would want the air compressor version as it would take longer and way more effort to drag out the compressor than to just do a couple quick hand pumps.
Agreed.
If the manual pump does not keep sucking and sucking after only four or five pumps of the handle then you have done something wrong, most likely you have not fitted the end of the tube tightly enough around the top of the car's oil extraction tube. It should be a fairly tight vacuum seal (which is why it is and is called a vacuum pump, doh!), I learned this the hard way the first time I used the pump.
 

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It just has to with the viscosity of the fluid your extracting. One big tip is to extract the oil warm BUT not too warm as these are all plastic extractors and can be affected by hot fluids.
I have found that if it's just a bit cold it takes a while to get it moving and drained.
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