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Old 09-21-2016, 08:37 PM
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I recently requested to have the dealer change my engine oil at 1500 miles, on my dime...I noticed the indicator shows that the oil level is over-filled. I may be obsessed, but I have always changed my own oil and never over filled it...

Is this of concern?

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Old 09-21-2016, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mwinner
Hi Jag-u-are world

I recently requested to have the dealer change my engine oil at 1500 miles, on my dime...I noticed the indicator shows that the oil level is over-filled. I may be obsessed, but I have always changed my own oil and never over filled it...

Is this of concern?

2016 S V6
This has happened to a bunch of folks with AWD cars. The oil pan is a different size and it seems many of the shops use the old instructions. It's likely only overfilled by a liter or so, and your engine is unlikely to be in danger. Have the shop remove the excess and consider asking for a discount on the original service.
 
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:54 AM
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Question, when are you checking yours? Are you waiting till the engine is cold? Reason I ask is because mine will show overfilled if I check it to soon after driving it. If I wait an hour or more mine reads that my level is fine.
 
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I checked several times, usually in the morning after it was parked overnight. I am hesitant to go back to the dealer since they screwed up on the 2 things I asked them for. Has anyone removed the excess oil without involving the dealer?

I plan to shop for another dealership when the maintenance is due, if any NorCal folks read this please share positive experiences with dealers.
 
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Originally Posted by mwinner
Has anyone removed the excess oil without involving the dealer?
I have not had to remove excess oil , but have removed the entirety of the oil for an oil change. The oil is extracted very easily with a vacuum extraction pump (~$60):



The extractor tube attaches to a metal tube right inside the oil filler hole.
 
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Same thing with me, but it was overfilled by two liters, I just removed the drain plug and removed about two liters, the "old school"way. Out of the drain plug using gravity. I really don't understand this vacuum extraction bullshit and feel draining out of the drain plug is a non issue. Specially during oil changes; assuming there may be sludge or fine metal particles or whatever, why would one want to pull it out of a 1/4 -1/2 tube against gravity is really beyond me vs. unscrewing one bolt and just letting the ****ing thing drain out...
 
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Is it possible to check the level in a 2014? If so, how? If not, how do we know how much oil is present?
 
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Originally Posted by Mpowerr
I just removed the drain plug and removed about two liters, the "old school"way. Out of the drain plug using gravity. I really don't understand this vacuum extraction bullshit and feel draining out of the drain plug is a non issue.
I agree. If you are going to be lazy with oil changes, get dealer to do it. If you are going to change oil yourself, then use the drain plug.
 
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Is it possible to check the level in a 2014? If so, how? If not, how do we know how much oil is present?
It's only possible to check it electronically, via the menu accessed by the steering wheel. My 2014 manual says the oil should be checked warm, but after the car has sat for at least 10 minutes. I don't think the 2014 allows you to check the oil when it's cold, though it's been a while since I tried that.
 
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Originally Posted by Mpowerr
I really don't understand this vacuum extraction bullshit and feel draining out of the drain plug is a non issue.
I can't squeeze under a car with 3 inches of ground clearance anymore. I'll let the dealer do it on the annual schedule. Otherwise I'll suck it out the top.
 

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Thanks all! I had her towed to another dealership (Cole European) much better experience then the previous dealer, and they pumped the overage out- they also agreed that not checking the fluid level after a change is akin to a surgeon leaving his gloves in your chest cavity.

Glad I had it corrected and the engine seems to run smoother- but that could be my OCD
 
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Think you did the right thing. They are reasonably expensive cars and you appear to want to look after it. There is potential harm with overfilling and zero with having the level correct.

You have got to wonder if they show so little care with something so simple and so easy to get right, what else are they getting wrong? You may have just saved yourself further grief down the track by moving on.
 
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Originally Posted by Mpowerr
Same thing with me, but it was overfilled by two liters, I just removed the drain plug and removed about two liters, the "old school"way. Out of the drain plug using gravity. I really don't understand this vacuum extraction bullshit and feel draining out of the drain plug is a non issue. Specially during oil changes; assuming there may be sludge or fine metal particles or whatever, why would one want to pull it out of a 1/4 -1/2 tube against gravity is really beyond me vs. unscrewing one bolt and just letting the ****ing thing drain out...
Do our F-types have a drain plug?
 
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Originally Posted by DJS
It's only possible to check it electronically, via the menu accessed by the steering wheel. My 2014 manual says the oil should be checked warm, but after the car has sat for at least 10 minutes. I don't think the 2014 allows you to check the oil when it's cold, though it's been a while since I tried that.
I've checked my 14 first thing in the am before first start and the electronic gauge works and seems accurate.
 
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Originally Posted by drbill
Do our F-types have a drain plug?
If they do, you have to remove the belly pan to get at the oil pan. A major pain unless you have a pit or lift in your garage. That's why they install the suction tube inside the filler hole. That is how most of the dealers remove the oil.
 
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Do our F-types have a drain plug?
I am pretty certain they do. The dealer charged me for one (with a partnumber) at my last service.
 
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As long as you keep up with oil changes the oil extraction method works well. If you neglect the process and let sludge build up it can be an issue. But we are talking like 80k miles between oil changes or driving in nasty conditions 7x24 for a long period of time.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
If they do, you have to remove the belly pan to get at the oil pan. A major pain unless you have a pit or lift in your garage. That's why they install the suction tube inside the filler hole. That is how most of the dealers remove the oil.
Photo of the suction tube in oil filler neck for those that are interested. With the oil filter in the front and on top of the engine oil changes should be a breeze.
 
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Originally Posted by RGPV6S
Photo of the suction tube in oil filler neck for those that are interested. With the oil filter in the front and on top of the engine oil changes should be a breeze.
+1. They are.
 


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