DIY oil change in jeopardy?
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06-24-2016, 12:58 AM
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DIY oil change in jeopardy?
Applies to all cars not just F-Types, but as this is the most active sub-forum on oil change intervals I thought I would post it here.
See this recent article by Eric Peters of Eric Peters Autos: No Oil Change For You! - EPautos
Potential bad news for CA owners, and as Eric says there is a good chance this lunacy, if it gets up, will spread to other States.
See this recent article by Eric Peters of Eric Peters Autos: No Oil Change For You! - EPautos
Potential bad news for CA owners, and as Eric says there is a good chance this lunacy, if it gets up, will spread to other States.
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06-24-2016, 08:15 AM
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I think linked article is FUD. My understanding, based on very brief research, is this is targeted at quick lube places that pressure-sell unneeded maintenance and utilize unskilled labor that regularly strip drain plugs.
My mother regularly gets taken by QuickLube shop, despite my assurances and explanations that she doesn't need it, she allows them to change differential and transmission fluid on her car at least twice a year (at $500+) or about every other engine oil change. Such behavior is both anti-consumer and bad for the environment.
My mother regularly gets taken by QuickLube shop, despite my assurances and explanations that she doesn't need it, she allows them to change differential and transmission fluid on her car at least twice a year (at $500+) or about every other engine oil change. Such behavior is both anti-consumer and bad for the environment.
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06-24-2016, 02:42 PM
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My mother regularly gets taken by QuickLube shop, despite my assurances and explanations that she doesn't need it, she allows them to change differential and transmission fluid on her car at least twice a year (at $500+) or about every other engine oil change. Such behavior is both anti-consumer and bad for the environment.
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06-25-2016, 09:51 AM
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Applies to all cars not just F-Types, but as this is the most active sub-forum on oil change intervals I thought I would post it here.
See this recent article by Eric Peters of Eric Peters Autos: No Oil Change For You! - EPautos
Potential bad news for CA owners, and as Eric says there is a good chance this lunacy, if it gets up, will spread to other States.
See this recent article by Eric Peters of Eric Peters Autos: No Oil Change For You! - EPautos
Potential bad news for CA owners, and as Eric says there is a good chance this lunacy, if it gets up, will spread to other States.
The modern S-types have been around since 1999 and both the 6 cyl and 8 cyl engines have been proven to be pretty much bulletproof with their 10K mile oil change interval on non-synthetic oil.
Despite this there's a sizable crowd that stills believes that 3K is a carved in stone limit.
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06-25-2016, 10:53 AM
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06-25-2016, 01:06 PM
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06-25-2016, 01:21 PM
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People might try actually reading at least the legislative
summary rather the the hyperbole of a advertising dependent
site written by someone who himself seems not quite able
to separate fact from fiction.
SB 778 Senate Bill - Bill Analysis
All it says is that any commercial enterprise offering oil change services
must inform the consumer of the manufacturers recommendations before
booking the service and that they observe those recommendations when
generating a "next service due" sticker or setting in the maintenance
computer.
The exception is where the customer selects an oil with a different oil
change interval recommendation. (see bullet #4)
The above is an attempt to regulate the commercial practice of recommending
shorter intervals as practiced by some outlets. In fact, Jiffy Lube is specifically
mentioned in the legislative comments.
So yes, the it properly belongs in a consumer protection bill.
The legislation has no bearing on DIY oil changes nor does it
remove the option from a consumer of selecting his own oil change
interval or oil. It only stops service writers from deviating from manufacturers
oil change interval recommendations when discussing oil changes
with customers. The customer can still choose to do otherwise.
So you can still do what you like, but you won't have to worry
that your Aunt Minnie is going to get railroaded into more frequent
lubrication services than recommended.
summary rather the the hyperbole of a advertising dependent
site written by someone who himself seems not quite able
to separate fact from fiction.
SB 778 Senate Bill - Bill Analysis
This bill:
1) Makes numerous findings and declarations regarding the use of
automotive oil in California, the development of oil quality
and engine technology, and the goal of reducing the use of
automotive oil in California.
2) Requires, prior to performing any work, an automotive repair
dealer to notify a customer purchasing an oil change of the
recommended oil drain interval, oil grade, and viscosity
specified in the maintenance schedule of the vehicle's
owner's manual.
3) Requires that, if an automotive repair dealer recommends the
date or mileage for the next oil change, the automotive
repair dealer will follow the oil drain interval specified in
the maintenance schedule of the vehicle's owner's manual when
making that recommendation to the customer verbally, in the
form of a window sticker, through settings in a vehicle's oil
sensor, or any other means, as specified.
4) Authorizes a customer to choose a different drain interval
used for purposes of
Item #3, above, if a customer purchases oil for the oil change
that has a recommended drain interval different from the oil
drain interval specified in the maintenance schedule of the
vehicle's owner manual.
1) Makes numerous findings and declarations regarding the use of
automotive oil in California, the development of oil quality
and engine technology, and the goal of reducing the use of
automotive oil in California.
2) Requires, prior to performing any work, an automotive repair
dealer to notify a customer purchasing an oil change of the
recommended oil drain interval, oil grade, and viscosity
specified in the maintenance schedule of the vehicle's
owner's manual.
3) Requires that, if an automotive repair dealer recommends the
date or mileage for the next oil change, the automotive
repair dealer will follow the oil drain interval specified in
the maintenance schedule of the vehicle's owner's manual when
making that recommendation to the customer verbally, in the
form of a window sticker, through settings in a vehicle's oil
sensor, or any other means, as specified.
4) Authorizes a customer to choose a different drain interval
used for purposes of
Item #3, above, if a customer purchases oil for the oil change
that has a recommended drain interval different from the oil
drain interval specified in the maintenance schedule of the
vehicle's owner manual.
must inform the consumer of the manufacturers recommendations before
booking the service and that they observe those recommendations when
generating a "next service due" sticker or setting in the maintenance
computer.
The exception is where the customer selects an oil with a different oil
change interval recommendation. (see bullet #4)
The above is an attempt to regulate the commercial practice of recommending
shorter intervals as practiced by some outlets. In fact, Jiffy Lube is specifically
mentioned in the legislative comments.
So yes, the it properly belongs in a consumer protection bill.
The legislation has no bearing on DIY oil changes nor does it
remove the option from a consumer of selecting his own oil change
interval or oil. It only stops service writers from deviating from manufacturers
oil change interval recommendations when discussing oil changes
with customers. The customer can still choose to do otherwise.
So you can still do what you like, but you won't have to worry
that your Aunt Minnie is going to get railroaded into more frequent
lubrication services than recommended.
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