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Old 10-17-2019, 12:57 PM
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My ‘16 R is absolutely gorgeous and is easily the most fun I’ve had in a car, ever.

BUT. While I love the aggressive exhaust, with its loud gurgling, there’s popping (like a firecracker going off) sound that happens frequently when letting off the throttle at lower speeds. I realize this may be what everyone loves.. but is there any method of reducing this? I had a friend drive the car down the street and the pops don’t sound “good” or “mean” to me.. it almost sounds like something is wrong. I just wish it was all that mean gurgle and not the pops..
 
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:03 PM
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The V6 does this as well and it sounds so dumb in my opinion. I have the V8 muffler, and I believe that amplified the issue. Anyone with another muffler setup care to share if they've been able to reduce this?
 
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:18 PM
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That’s actually why I didn’t love the v6. Felt forced.

I should clarify, on the v8, the gurgling sometimes pops in a good way.. but it’s not that firecracker sound. More meaty. I think the pop/cracks sound bad when they are thin and harsh.
 
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Old 10-17-2019, 01:34 PM
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You can probably talk to any of the tuners (like VAP), and I'm sure they can do a tune for you that will reduce the effect. However, I don't think you'll be able to reduce it without some software change.
 
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Post deleted. I was trying to be funny—and we certainly need humor as much as we can get it—and/or sarcastic (and while I rarely over-think anything) I need not be. Especially towards someone I don’t know.

Moving on...
 

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Old 10-17-2019, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
You can probably talk to any of the tuners (like VAP), and I'm sure they can do a tune for you that will reduce the effect. However, I don't think you'll be able to reduce it without some software change.
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Old 10-17-2019, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RickyJay52
Most effective way to remove any snap, crackle or pop is to buy a Prius.

Sorry, yeah, no help at all.

Carry on...I’m sure someone will chime in with a more helpful post.

P.S. On a TSB, put out years ago, Jaguar in their infinite wisdom [read as sarcasm] removed many of the snap, crackle and pops many of us here love. And the only way to regain those was to get a tune; VAP first and foremost among many of us here. So maybe, in the end, I was actually helpful?
That's definitely not the more effective way given that the snap, crackle, pops are all software related... Nonetheless, yes, I'm sure a tuner could do it. Prior to going that route though, I'd like to switch to the VAP V8 muffler, and then tune from there to remove the pops.
 
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Old 10-17-2019, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaggyx
That's definitely not the more effective way given that the snap, crackle, pops are all software related... Nonetheless, yes, I'm sure a tuner could do it. Prior to going that route though, I'd like to switch to the VAP V8 muffler, and then tune from there to remove the pops.
switching to the VAP quad exhaust on the V6 will only decrease the pops when letting off the throttle under 3000 rpm. The pops will sound like 50 caliber gunfire when letting off the gas over 3000 rpm. I can avoid the gunfire entirely by either disengaging the clutch and up shifting to avoid the 3000-3500 rpm range. The VAP is nothing more than straight pipes. The exhaust only goes through the muffler under 3000rpm when the loud button is turned off.
 

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Old 10-17-2019, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
switching to the VAP quad exhaust on the V6 will only decrease the pops when letting off the throttle under 3000 rpm. The pops will sound like 50 caliber gunfire when letting off the gas over 3000 rpm. I can avoid the gunfire entirely by either disengaging the clutch and up shifting to avoid the 3000-3500 rpm range. The VAP is nothing more than straight pipes under all conditions unless the Loud button is turned of and only then when the Engine is under 3000rpm.
I'm actually curious if running straight pipes to quad muffler tips in place of a muffler would sound any different than a Velocity AP muffler? I can attest to the fact that right now, I do not have even a lick of drone, and that's an aspect of the exhaust I do not watch to change.
 
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The VAP quad touring exhaust in my v6S auto develops a bit of drone at 110kph (about 70mph). It is fine at 100kph, also fine if you have it in manual and drop it back a cog. It is just that 110kph in normal mode is a sweet spot for some drone, due to the revs.

I agree with Unhingd regarding the pops, they sound like explosions sometimes. A wild and probably wrong thought is that a resonator might solve that and give a decent (but reduced) sound. I would say that the VAP quad exhaust (with tune etc) on the V6 makes it sound amazing even at idle. You would be hard pressed to pick it from a v8, as long as you can live with the extra noise which is significant, especially in dynamic. It cost me plenty to do the job but I reckon it was money well spent as the car is now everything I personally could ever want (which means I wont blow a heap more money on a used SVR) while retaining the light front end that I prefer about the 6.
 
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You would be hard pressed to pick it from a v8
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Same on the minor drone at 70 mph. Not there at 65 or 75.
 
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Without the pops and bangs I'd sell it.
 
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Originally Posted by BruceTheQuail
I agree with Unhingd regarding the pops, they sound like explosions sometimes.
You say that like it's a bad thing ...
 
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Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
Without the pops and bangs I'd sell it.

agreed
 
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On a slightly related matter, and in case many did not see this (with apologies to the OP for the diversion):


Of course, this one is even better (and I think I’ve watched it many 50 times; and in case you where wondering, “where did our very own Unhingd get his name from?”)

 

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Originally Posted by maxiedaniels
My ‘16 R is absolutely gorgeous and is easily the most fun I’ve had in a car, ever.

BUT. While I love the aggressive exhaust, with its loud gurgling, there’s popping (like a firecracker going off) sound that happens frequently when letting off the throttle at lower speeds. I realize this may be what everyone loves.. but is there any method of reducing this? I had a friend drive the car down the street and the pops don’t sound “good” or “mean” to me.. it almost sounds like something is wrong. I just wish it was all that mean gurgle and not the pops..
If you don't want your pops, are you willing to sell them? If be happy to have your pops. PM me with your best price
 
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My issue with them is that they just sound too synthetic. I have the same issue with the new BMW M cars. All of the pops and bangs are just tuned into the car. I also think is sounds slightly worse on my car with the OE V8 exhaust.
 
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
+1.
Same on the minor drone at 70 mph. Not there at 65 or 75.
Recently, i have been playing with a few different setups, on the 6cyl the drone is coming from the resonator on the mid pipes, if you put a v8 midpipe on a v6 it looses the drone but gets much louder, if you put a V6 midpipe on a V8 it also gets a drone at 70+-. 100% it is possible to cut out majority if not all of the pops with a tune, its just a fuel dump. i also believe the "gargling" noise is the supercharger bypass valve causing turbulence in the intake when you let off, heard a few roots superchargers make this noise. The valves in both the stock and VAP exhaust can be set to open/close whenever you would like them to again with a tune.
 

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Without the pops and bangs I'd sell it.
indeed - I tried being sensible and cost-conscious by trying a V6; however, I hit the start button pushed the loud pedal and shut it off immediately....
 
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Old 10-18-2019, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Itismejoshy
Recently, i have been playing with a few different setups, on the 6cyl the drone is coming from the resonator on the mid pipes, if you put a v8 midpipe on a v6 it looses the drone but gets much louder, if you put a V6 midpipe on a V8 it also gets a drone at 70+-. 100% it is possible to cut out majority if not all of the pops with a tune, its just a fuel dump. i also believe the "gargling" noise is the supercharger bypass valve causing turbulence in the intake when you let off, heard a few roots superchargers make this noise. The valves in both the stock and VAP exhaust can be set to open/close whenever you would like them to again with a tune.
Hmm. I'm not so sure I can corroborate those findings. I've driven my V6 with the mid-pipes in place but without muffler and can attest to their being plenty of drone during that brief period. It must be that the V6 mid-pipes are tuned for a different frequency than the V8 mid-pipes.
 


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