Drove AWD and RWD back-to-back
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Overpowered RWD cars aren't fun to me. I had an overpowered 135i and it was simply boring by comparison. I have no interest in drifting, and couldn't give a damn about lap times. I love that feeling when you get thrown back into your seat from the torque and being able to use all the power all the time. You can't use 550 hp in the RWD F Type on the street until you're doing well over the speed limit and that's a significant negative to me. I have much more fun using all that power in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear through the twisties and flooring it away from a stoplight in my AWD car than I ever could in a RWD equivalent. Sure I rarely hit over 75 mph, but i'm enjoying the hell out of it.
This is my opinion, and others (obviously few of them) share it too... so don't just say the only way someone can have fun is in a RWD car. It goes both ways and there will never be a right answer so we should just all stop debating it. Lap times are one thing, but what's more fun is an irrelevant topic.
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I think you did not get the "If you don't care so much of any of the above..."?
Because you certainly do, and there is nothing wrong with that![Wink](https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif)
And I did not intend to say that if you do, you can't have fun.
For me, what is most fun and challenging, is the pure fact that I can't just "plant the right foot" and let the car do the rest.
A car that does not allow me to do that without consequenses, is just what I have been looking for, after 23 years of driving sportsbikes on and of track.
But thats what I find fun. Others will find awd more fun, but for other reasons. That was my point.
Because you certainly do, and there is nothing wrong with that
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And I did not intend to say that if you do, you can't have fun.
For me, what is most fun and challenging, is the pure fact that I can't just "plant the right foot" and let the car do the rest.
A car that does not allow me to do that without consequenses, is just what I have been looking for, after 23 years of driving sportsbikes on and of track.
But thats what I find fun. Others will find awd more fun, but for other reasons. That was my point.
Last edited by Arne; 06-10-2015 at 05:14 PM.
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Here, i'll fix it for you then...
I did read the "If you don't care so much of any of the above..." but you clearly insinuated that if all you car about is having fun, you have to get RWD... Get my beef now?
This is totally dependig on everyones interest, preference and use of car.
If you want to be fastest on the track and want to have fun, the awd is probabely the way to go.
If you are going to use it in winter conditions and want to have fun = awd.
If you are going to use it as an everyday car in any kind of conditions and think that 550hp/680Nm is a bit too much/to risky and want to have fun = awd.
If you don't care so much about any of the above, but where top priority is to have fun (on track as well) = rwd.
But no-one can say what is best/preferable for others. Only you can deceide for youself depending on what YOU want from the car.
If you want to be fastest on the track and want to have fun, the awd is probabely the way to go.
If you are going to use it in winter conditions and want to have fun = awd.
If you are going to use it as an everyday car in any kind of conditions and think that 550hp/680Nm is a bit too much/to risky and want to have fun = awd.
If you don't care so much about any of the above, but where top priority is to have fun (on track as well) = rwd.
But no-one can say what is best/preferable for others. Only you can deceide for youself depending on what YOU want from the car.
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Again, the car doesn't struggle, it's the driver that struggles. Philosophical question: If the technology is able to wring all uncertainty out of the experience (awd, full DSC, computer shifting, vector braking, etc.), can driving really be considered a sport and is it still appropriate to call it a sports car?
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Ludd Troglodyte
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Ludd Troglodyte
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I gotta defend "lhoboy" (Lance) here--he's no troll. He's a serious car guy with a lot of engineering knowledge and experience with all things automotive. Just because he's decided to wait for a manual F-Type doesn't mean he doesn't have a very good understanding of the F-Type as well as the physics of car handling. The F-Type is bound by the same physical laws as any other car.
And I agree with him that more often than not it's a driver struggling because the majority aren't in tune with the capabilities and limitations of what they're driving.
And I agree with him that more often than not it's a driver struggling because the majority aren't in tune with the capabilities and limitations of what they're driving.
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I gotta defend "lhoboy" (Lance) here--he's no troll. He's a serious car guy with a lot of engineering knowledge and experience with all things automotive. Just because he's decided to wait for a manual F-Type doesn't mean he doesn't have a very good understanding of the F-Type as well as the physics of car handling. The F-Type is bound by the same physical laws as any other car.
And I agree with him that more often than not it's a driver struggling because the majority aren't in tune with the capabilities and limitations of what they're driving.
And I agree with him that more often than not it's a driver struggling because the majority aren't in tune with the capabilities and limitations of what they're driving.
"signed,
Ludd Troglodyte"
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Only thing based in fact was the signature.
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The best part of the F-Type is that they are offering enough variants for all of us to get our groove on.
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My whole complaint has been that only about 50% of people here recognize differences of opinions. Debate the facts not the opinions.
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TXJagR, not to worry, taken in the spirit intended.
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But I am not shure you got mine - and I am still not shure
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The "fact" is that everyone will be able to have fun in the F-type - no matter which model. But we might have fun for different reasons.
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