End of the supercharged V6???
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See here: https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/23/...v6-inline-six/
JLR has axed the AJ126 SC (same engine as used in the V6 F-Type) from the XE and XF line-ups, at least in the UK and Europe, so who knows how much longer it will be offered in the F-Type. It could well be axed before the engine deal with Ford to build the AJ126 and AJ133 (5.0 V8) engines expires in Dec 2020.
The mooted replacement, an Ingenium I6 of 3.0 litres (and probably turbocharged) has been talked about for three years now but there never seems to be any progress on it, who knows if or when it will ever appear in production.
JLR has axed the AJ126 SC (same engine as used in the V6 F-Type) from the XE and XF line-ups, at least in the UK and Europe, so who knows how much longer it will be offered in the F-Type. It could well be axed before the engine deal with Ford to build the AJ126 and AJ133 (5.0 V8) engines expires in Dec 2020.
The mooted replacement, an Ingenium I6 of 3.0 litres (and probably turbocharged) has been talked about for three years now but there never seems to be any progress on it, who knows if or when it will ever appear in production.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the F-Type is phased out entirely along with the sexy engine options. I am certain that Jag is disappointed with the weak demand in the 2-seater. They see their future in the Pace platform (E,F & I).
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Sad, but true. The sales numbers are not good, and never have been. The F as lovely as it is, was not able to dethrone the 911 as the sports car to have. JLR tried, but didn't have what it takes. The F is too heavy, and too lacking in amenities, and not possessed of the overwhelming performance that it would have taken to displace the 911. I expect the F will drift along for a few more years before quietly coming to an end. Sergio Marchione used to say you could not succeed in the automobile business on sales of less than 6 million units a year. I expect JLR will turn into an English version of Honda/Accord making nice Pace type vehicles for the suburban set. The sports cars will wither away, and the luxury sedans will die a quiet death. Jaguar will be left as domestic versions of Land Rover. And so buy a classic F type and keep it as you would an E Type, and wish you had bought a Lusso when you could afford it,
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If they kill the SC engines, our values go up a little as we all know SC is preferred over turbo when it comes to a sports car for the more linear response and improve throttle response, plus of course noise.
If they discontinue the F-type completely, our values will absolutely rocket because like you say its a great car but sales volumes have not been spectacular.
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Maybe in CA and FL. Haven’t seen another one here in a whole year Except for other forum members’. My dealer doesn’t even stock them anymore.
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Sad but not altogether surprising.
Both V6 and V8 engines have been and are built at Ford UK Bridgend plant. Thus contract is due to end soon. Jaguar have their own engine plant now I believe that builds Ingenium line (dreadful name I think)
In UK and EU very few supercharged petrol engines in production.
Used to be VW, Mercedes Benz that had supercharged, now all replaced with Turbocharged engines.
I suspect Jaguar will likely move to turbocharged as with the four cylinder turbo in the F Type.
I hope there is a six and eight cylinder to replace the current V6 and V8
Both V6 and V8 engines have been and are built at Ford UK Bridgend plant. Thus contract is due to end soon. Jaguar have their own engine plant now I believe that builds Ingenium line (dreadful name I think)
In UK and EU very few supercharged petrol engines in production.
Used to be VW, Mercedes Benz that had supercharged, now all replaced with Turbocharged engines.
I suspect Jaguar will likely move to turbocharged as with the four cylinder turbo in the F Type.
I hope there is a six and eight cylinder to replace the current V6 and V8
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Same here in NC. I've owned mine since November '17 and haven't met another on the road nor in any parking lots. My BIL bought an SVR around the same time I did and he also never sees any on the roads near him. He lives about an hour away from us.
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An iPace sounds interesting. Can't wait to see one in person.
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And Jaguar as an exclusive marque has whethered many storms and disproven the bleetings of the uninformed many times - those who, for example, derided the X-Type as a Mondeo in fancy dress (absolutely untrue) and as a failure...not sure how sales of about 400,000 for one model of a small car company could be deemed a failure...there are some who are now using a similar line regarding the F-Type.
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We have multiple Jaguar dealerships in the Atlanta area and except for mine and a friend's (although I haven't seen hers since shortly after she got it), I've only seen one other in the wild. I'm sure there are others around town, but I've seen more Ferrari, Lambo, etc. Heck, there are three Maserati in the parking deck here at work that I see regularly, tons of Porsches, BMW, Mercedes, etc. It's funny, around here we have a tendency to categorize drivers by what they drive - all BMW drivers are asshats, Merdeces drivers are all entitled and pretend they are the only ones who matter, Mustang drivers think they are the fastest on the road and like to weave in and out of traffic, etc. Most of the Jags I've seen out and about might be driven a bit faster than the speed limit would allow, but mostly polite and you can tell they care about their cars than many others.
All of my car loving neighbors on my street have come over to see mine (one has an M6, one has old muscle cars - love his Chevelle, another has a Porsche, but they've all been all over mine). One of my coworkers now wants to trade in his Audi for one and constantly parks next to me at work so he can drool, I mean admire, my car (he moved back here recently from LA and said he fell in love with them there because he saw/heard them all the time there). I've also noticed a marked difference in how people react to you when you're driving this car. In my Solstice, I constantly had creepy people saying "Hey baby, can I get a ride in your car?"
Seriously, can't make that up - although the look on one guy's face when I looked at him and asked if that had ever worked for him was priceless. In this car I get thumbs up, grins, yells of "Nice car!" etc. Since there aren't many around, I have to remember that people notice and recognize it. I've gotten texts from friends saying "I just saw you at x intersection!"
Sorry, that was a rambling way of saying I haven't seen many of these around town. I'm mostly being long-winded to avoid a project at work I really don't want to have to do.
All of my car loving neighbors on my street have come over to see mine (one has an M6, one has old muscle cars - love his Chevelle, another has a Porsche, but they've all been all over mine). One of my coworkers now wants to trade in his Audi for one and constantly parks next to me at work so he can drool, I mean admire, my car (he moved back here recently from LA and said he fell in love with them there because he saw/heard them all the time there). I've also noticed a marked difference in how people react to you when you're driving this car. In my Solstice, I constantly had creepy people saying "Hey baby, can I get a ride in your car?"
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Sorry, that was a rambling way of saying I haven't seen many of these around town. I'm mostly being long-winded to avoid a project at work I really don't want to have to do.
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