Engine Dead at 26k Miles! This happen to anyone else?
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Queen and Country (06-29-2018)
#42
Dude.... That’s the point I was making. JLR prices and part availability pushes their clients away to FleaBay to buy a salvage who-knows unit. You then get the pleasure of paying for installation to see IF it even works by an Indy technician who probably seldom, if ever, sees an F-type.
#43
C2D45620 is £7k new in the UK at JLR list price, without applying any discount. Realistically you could get it for around £5.5k with the "Jag tax" (about $7k USD at the moment). If there is compatibility with Land Rover parts then often those will be cheaper.
The only reason to buy from Jag would be if you wanted their spare parts warranty (which IIRC is only 12 months anyway), otherwise you would buy from the source.
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Queen and Country (06-29-2018)
#44
I can guarantee you I'd be getting real familiar with this process if I lose a major part outside warranty! If these prices were quoted to an insurance agent, they'd total the car.
#45
I wonder what Jag Corporate would do for people who are looking to buy a major OEM part - short block, transmission, rear-end - outside of warranty for cash. Customers are not having a "high-end luxury experience" if they are having to dig around in salvage yards for used parts, because it's the only way to avoid being absolutely abused by the manufacturer. There is a lot of competition out there; why would a customer who got really ripped off in a desperate moment buy from the same company again?
Maybe the intent is for you to bring a broken Jag in, scare the daylights out of the customer with a $20,000 transmission replacement bill, and then propose that the only way out is a favorable trade-in on a new one. They'll depreciate your broken Jag by the real cost of the repair, say $5k on a transmission, and you'll think thats great because a $5k loss is better than the $20k that is quoted or the prospect of dealing with used parts. Maybe it's good for business in the short-term, but if you want customers to love the brand it's not the way to go.
It's constructive criticism here, because I wish it were different.
Maybe the intent is for you to bring a broken Jag in, scare the daylights out of the customer with a $20,000 transmission replacement bill, and then propose that the only way out is a favorable trade-in on a new one. They'll depreciate your broken Jag by the real cost of the repair, say $5k on a transmission, and you'll think thats great because a $5k loss is better than the $20k that is quoted or the prospect of dealing with used parts. Maybe it's good for business in the short-term, but if you want customers to love the brand it's not the way to go.
It's constructive criticism here, because I wish it were different.
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#47
C2D45620 is £7k new in the UK at JLR list price, without applying any discount. Realistically you could get it for around £5.5k with the "Jag tax" (about $7k USD at the moment). If there is compatibility with Land Rover parts then often those will be cheaper.
The only reason to buy from Jag would be if you wanted their spare parts warranty (which IIRC is only 12 months anyway), otherwise you would buy from the source.
The only reason to buy from Jag would be if you wanted their spare parts warranty (which IIRC is only 12 months anyway), otherwise you would buy from the source.
It seems like UK parts prices are better than in the US. 5500 GBP = 7264 USD. That's still a hell of a lot for this transmission but a huge improvement over the US price.
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JozJag (06-30-2018)
#49
In a similar manner breaking a several year old car into parts to sell separately will often realise more than the value of car
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JozJag (06-30-2018)
#50
The AJ133 V8 engine has been in production since 2009, I think any reliability or durability problems would have been well documented if they were widespread.
#51
I would be interested to know how many of the problems are due to abuse of the car. I guess those of us who purchased used just have to hope for the best. My warranty expired a few days ago, but I purchased it as a CPO, which gives me a couple more years. I have never been a fan of third-party, extended warranties, but that might be something I consider in the future.
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#53
I wonder what Jag Corporate would do for people who are looking to buy a major OEM part - short block, transmission, rear-end - outside of warranty for cash. Customers are not having a "high-end luxury experience" if they are having to dig around in salvage yards for used parts, because it's the only way to avoid being absolutely abused by the manufacturer. There is a lot of competition out there; why would a customer who got really ripped off in a desperate moment buy from the same company again?
Maybe the intent is for you to bring a broken Jag in, scare the daylights out of the customer with a $20,000 transmission replacement bill, and then propose that the only way out is a favorable trade-in on a new one. They'll depreciate your broken Jag by the real cost of the repair, say $5k on a transmission, and you'll think thats great because a $5k loss is better than the $20k that is quoted or the prospect of dealing with used parts. Maybe it's good for business in the short-term, but if you want customers to love the brand it's not the way to go.
It's constructive criticism here, because I wish it were different.
Maybe the intent is for you to bring a broken Jag in, scare the daylights out of the customer with a $20,000 transmission replacement bill, and then propose that the only way out is a favorable trade-in on a new one. They'll depreciate your broken Jag by the real cost of the repair, say $5k on a transmission, and you'll think thats great because a $5k loss is better than the $20k that is quoted or the prospect of dealing with used parts. Maybe it's good for business in the short-term, but if you want customers to love the brand it's not the way to go.
It's constructive criticism here, because I wish it were different.
At this point, I've got a fresh transmission on warranty in a low miles R coupe and the dealer I bought it from had it priced to sell (clearly wanted to unload it before the warranty expired). I feel pretty good about the deal actually. I do believe that with high powered cars like these, we *can* break them. I try not to bang the thing around too much - I drive it hard, but smooth.
Now, to remember to check that oil level at least once a week
#54
I have your engine, for nearly a decade and 50k miles. Others have over 150k miles. Its bulletproof.
To quote Churchill, there was man who died young of many worries, none of which materialized.
(you got one detail slightly wrong, if an engine can go to 40k miles- it will go to 200k....if you had only put more miles on while under warranty.)
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