F-Type Brakes - Why so cheap?
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F-Type Brakes - Why so cheap?
Been looking to pick up an F-Type Coupe for some fun on the track, and have been completely mystified by the cheap brakes that are even on most SVRs? It appears as though maybe one in 50 cars has the carbon brake option, and that the even the SVR wasn't fitted with a base fixed caliper & steel disc as standard equipment. Does Jaguar realize that they are killing the credibility of the car with performance users (or even cars and coffee users!) by painting "regular" floating calipers red in an attempt to look fast!
I will keep looking, but my chances of finding an acceptable car are greatly reduced because of this.
...ugh
I will keep looking, but my chances of finding an acceptable car are greatly reduced because of this.
...ugh
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Norfolk Enchants (03-16-2019)
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I'm sure that in reality they do, SinF, I mean it's not like I'm going to drive it on the edge or anything like that! It's just that their appearance doesn't inspire confidence, and I really don't want to park myself next to (likely every other car at a track day) that will have them, and open myself up to all the derisory comments that will inevitably come. I am probably being too vain, but hey, this stuff matters with performance cars, right!?
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I understand your feeling on the brakes because I feel the same way. We should have opposed piston calipers instead of sliding yoke. Seriously, JLR puts them on SUVs so they have them in the parts bin already.
That said, the Super Performance brakes work quite well and have rotors the size (and weight) of manhole covers. When I upgraded the rotors to vented/drilled/slotted 2-piece ones I looked at the calipers more closely. They're nowhere near as heavy as I thought they'd be because the largest bracket is alloy.
The Carbon/Ceramic brakes are rare because they were quite an expensive add-on. I think they were $10-12K when I ordered, and not available to me because I insisted on a manual transmission.
That said, the Super Performance brakes work quite well and have rotors the size (and weight) of manhole covers. When I upgraded the rotors to vented/drilled/slotted 2-piece ones I looked at the calipers more closely. They're nowhere near as heavy as I thought they'd be because the largest bracket is alloy.
The Carbon/Ceramic brakes are rare because they were quite an expensive add-on. I think they were $10-12K when I ordered, and not available to me because I insisted on a manual transmission.
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I would only get an F-Type with the CCB’s. While YES the standard brakes work fine. I don’t track and never will likely. They are impressive and I like the way the look and make a statement about such a beautiful car. I can afford it and it makes me happy. That is all I need. CCB cars are hard to find. When I found my car and showed the Mrs’s her FIRST words were “look at those brakes wow” what else do you need.
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Norfolk Enchants (03-16-2019)
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I actually didn't seriously consider the CCB package because of the cost. It was only later I heard that it wasn't available for MT cars. In actual use, my gripes about the Super Performance brakes are largely from the pads. The stock pads are a little grabby at low speed/light pedal. I prefer a little harder pedal feel. The other issue is dust. They dust the wheels badly enough to make a BMW owner cringe.
They definitely stop the car though, with power and control.
I haven't tracked yet, so can't compare the stock pad/rotor combination with the replacement 2-piece rotors and Porterfield pads in that environment. In daily driving I only notice that in heavy rain the Porterfields need a little extra effort for the first stop. Light rain, or once the brakes have a little heat, I don't see any difference. Oh, and the slotted/drilled/suncut rotors look pretty spiffy, if that matters
They definitely stop the car though, with power and control.
I haven't tracked yet, so can't compare the stock pad/rotor combination with the replacement 2-piece rotors and Porterfield pads in that environment. In daily driving I only notice that in heavy rain the Porterfields need a little extra effort for the first stop. Light rain, or once the brakes have a little heat, I don't see any difference. Oh, and the slotted/drilled/suncut rotors look pretty spiffy, if that matters
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Anyone complaining about your brakes will be doing it to try to distract people from being jealous of the gorgeous looks of the car.
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Studied an fpace svr today. Entirely new front calipers. They look to be a four piston. Dealer pulled parts up for me and list is 900.00 per caliper. Rotor is a different cut than other jag rotors. Would think they should make this the caliper standard for non CCB svr ftypes but who knows..
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Studied an fpace svr today. Entirely new front calipers. They look to be a four piston. Dealer pulled parts up for me and list is 900.00 per caliper. Rotor is a different cut than other jag rotors. Would think they should make this the caliper standard for non CCB svr ftypes but who knows..
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They are fixed caliper brakes that I reference, but without the carbon. I have not seen these and did not know that they were available with a steel disc. I would still prefer the carbon or a two-piece disc, but would be happy with these. Thanks, good to know. Should increase my options.
Do you know if these available as an option on the R too?
Edit: I just noticed that your comments and pics are F-Pace not F-Type....ugh
Do you know if these available as an option on the R too?
Edit: I just noticed that your comments and pics are F-Pace not F-Type....ugh
Last edited by Norfolk Enchants; 03-17-2019 at 03:49 PM.
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Sorry, if forgot to photograph rears. will do, either today or tomorrow.
Here are part numbers I got from my dealer from the SVR vin
LH FRONT Caliper T4A32800 list $900.00 each us dealer
RH FRONT J9C16858 list $900.00 us dealer
ROTORS T4A16878
I will work on getting part numbers for rear equipment and dust shields.
below are specs from brochure, so they look larger
base wheel on SVR is 21" with 22" option
specs say rotors are two piece. They do not look two piece with the wheel on. Note the rear rotors are listed larger than front.
I cannot tell with wheels on.
Left to me, I am pretty sure these are brembo calipers, they look like their mould pattern, but I am making an uneducated guess!
BRAKES Front type4-piston aluminium monobloc fixed caliper, vented 2-piece discFront diameter (mm)395
Rear type ingle piston sliding caliper, vented 2-piece disc 396(MM)
Rear diameter (mm)396Park brakeiEPB
Here are part numbers I got from my dealer from the SVR vin
LH FRONT Caliper T4A32800 list $900.00 each us dealer
RH FRONT J9C16858 list $900.00 us dealer
ROTORS T4A16878
I will work on getting part numbers for rear equipment and dust shields.
below are specs from brochure, so they look larger
base wheel on SVR is 21" with 22" option
specs say rotors are two piece. They do not look two piece with the wheel on. Note the rear rotors are listed larger than front.
I cannot tell with wheels on.
Left to me, I am pretty sure these are brembo calipers, they look like their mould pattern, but I am making an uneducated guess!
BRAKES Front type4-piston aluminium monobloc fixed caliper, vented 2-piece discFront diameter (mm)395
Rear type ingle piston sliding caliper, vented 2-piece disc 396(MM)
Rear diameter (mm)396Park brakeiEPB
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