F-Type DRL Probem
#23
#24
Yeah. I also keep seeing new guys with MY18 cars asking about this problem on Facebook.
Last week I had two different dealers check mine. One didn't see the problem (duh) and the other concluded that the light would have to be replaced and would check with the extended warranty company which is bound to reject it.
Last week I had two different dealers check mine. One didn't see the problem (duh) and the other concluded that the light would have to be replaced and would check with the extended warranty company which is bound to reject it.
#25
Add my 2018 F-Type to the list of failed DRLs. Only one segment on the left DRL illuminates and the entire right DRL is dimming. The turn signals seem to work but also appear to be dimming on both sides.
One of the threads mentioned that a new control module solved the problem on a Ford F150. Who knows? Maybe the control module is the problem since so many Jaguar parts are supplied by Ford.
My 100,000 mile extended warranty expires sometime this year (the car has fewer than 34,000 miles on the odometer). I'll talk to my service advisor on Monday. Ugh.
One of the threads mentioned that a new control module solved the problem on a Ford F150. Who knows? Maybe the control module is the problem since so many Jaguar parts are supplied by Ford.
My 100,000 mile extended warranty expires sometime this year (the car has fewer than 34,000 miles on the odometer). I'll talk to my service advisor on Monday. Ugh.
#26
Add my 2018 F-Type to the list of failed DRLs. Only one segment on the left DRL illuminates and the entire right DRL is dimming. The turn signals seem to work but also appear to be dimming on both sides.
One of the threads mentioned that a new control module solved the problem on a Ford F150. Who knows? Maybe the control module is the problem since so many Jaguar parts are supplied by Ford.
My 100,000 mile extended warranty expires sometime this year (the car has fewer than 34,000 miles on the odometer). I'll talk to my service advisor on Monday. Ugh.
One of the threads mentioned that a new control module solved the problem on a Ford F150. Who knows? Maybe the control module is the problem since so many Jaguar parts are supplied by Ford.
My 100,000 mile extended warranty expires sometime this year (the car has fewer than 34,000 miles on the odometer). I'll talk to my service advisor on Monday. Ugh.
#27
Having spoken with my Jaguar service advisor I learned that the extended warranty on the F-Type will cover the cost of replacing both headlamps. Good thing, too, because the car won't pass annual safety inspection unless all of the turn signals function as intended...since the DRL and turn signals are one and the same. In any case, I suggested to my service advisor that the DRL control module(s) first be checked as it/they may be the problem (as suggested by another on the forum when talking about DRL failure on his Ford F150). Next week I should know whether or not the DRL control module is the cause. Regardless, the entire cost will be borne by the extended warranty and not the manufacturer's warranty. Phewwww!
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DJS (05-22-2023)
#28
I have a 2020 Checkered Flag and the drivers side DRL is about 50%. Taking it in to the dealer. I asked them what type of equipment do they have or what is the procedure to make sure the CCT and the lumens are the same for left and right. They were clueless. It goes in the shop in the next two days. It will be interesting to see what they do. I have a long commute to get to the dealer so I'm going to call parts to see if they have a drivers side in stock. If not, I'll reschedule until they do. Since I didn't buy the car from them, they won't schedule me a loaner. So much for the "Elite"!
#29
My dealer, Alexandria (Virginia) Land Rover (previously, included Jaguar) replaced the left headlamp on my wife's Ultra Blue 2018 F-Type R-Dynamic AWD coupe in one week. Amazing job! They also checked out the control module(s), software, wiring connections, and pretty much everything on both headlamps just to make sure everything checked out. I thought that I was having a similar problem with the DRL on the right headlamp but I must have been imagining how dim it was. The dealer said that all is well with the right headlamp - for now. If a problem develops I hope that it occurs prior to expiration of the extended warranty in December 2023. Otherwise, I must commend Alexandria Land Rover for their usual stellar service.
#30
Looks like I'll be taking my 2018 FTR to the dealership to schedule replacement/repair of the driver's side DRL/headlight assembly. I'm having the same problem of incomplete illumination of the DRL strip as described by everyone else above. My warranty is good through 5/24, so I shouldn't have to pay for this repair. I'll update this thread as I move through the repair process.
#31
I took my 2018 FTR into the dealership today to have the driver's side LED headlight assembly replaced. After reading this thread, I took a closer look at my headlamps and noticed a portion of the J light beginning to fail on the driver's side. The dealership covered this repair 100% under my remaining CPO warranty ..... what a relief, as the warranty invoice itemized the headlight at 6,540 USD. My service rep told me that if I had to pay for it myself (out of warranty), the bill would have likely been over 9K for the headlight (plus labor). I am speechless ..... and can't help but wonder if the future of specialized parts like this are going to become more expensive with time, now that JLR has discontinued the F Type?
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#34
DRL failure - left side and dancing DRLs on right side
Hi all, yes my F-Type V6 AWD 2017 (updated lights) also has this problem. I commute to work in my car (65 miles round trip) and I must pass around 10,000 other car users on a busy motorway ring road each day but I refuse to pay for the repairs as I cannot afford them. I do love this car though, it is just a shame that from the outside it looks like a dodgy fault and the car looks like a melon when looking at the front or from someone's rear mirrors (Jaguar marketing - take note). I am out of warranty so I am now thinking now I park my car on a shared dealership entrance each weekend for 6 hours a day which leads to both Jag and BMW dealerships with my car lights turned on and displaying a sign saying "£4k for bulb replacement, a known unrecognised fault by Jaguar) - chose carefully which car!" OR at the entrance to this road which I think is highways agency anyway (so all I need is a food licence), I am considering setting up a gas BBQ and offering bacon butties, burgers and coffee to potential visitors (with hand me outs about my car) which I will continue to do until I have the revenue to pay for the repairs or Jag eventually concedes to pay them. Sorry last resorts, but it would be good to hear my plan from you all (negative or positive)?
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Ichi Ban (08-04-2024)
#35
Paste a yellow lemon on your car
On a couple occasions I've threatened to paste a big yellow lemon on the side of my vehicle telling observers to NOT buy from a particular non-Jaguar dealer. Miraculously, the problems were resolved in short order. Sometimes people believe that I'm really crazy anuff to resort to such action. In reality, I am crazy anuff. };-)
My wife and I have owned eight Jaguars - as many as five at one time - since 2016. The vehicles (E-PACE, F-PACE, F-Type, XE & XF) have been great as has our local Jaguar dealer. Unfortunately, Jaguar automotive engineers design some things that are needlessly over complicated and expensive to repair; DRLs, for example.
My wife and I have owned eight Jaguars - as many as five at one time - since 2016. The vehicles (E-PACE, F-PACE, F-Type, XE & XF) have been great as has our local Jaguar dealer. Unfortunately, Jaguar automotive engineers design some things that are needlessly over complicated and expensive to repair; DRLs, for example.
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DJS (10-04-2023)
#36
It's a bit unfair to call it a bulb replacement because it simply isn't that kind of cheap to replace stone age technology. I don't think it's a matter of over engineering the lights either. This is no JLR specific rocket science but plain technology that's been around in all kinds of cars since a decade or so.
The culprit here seems to be the French supplier Valeo that produces these lights and just seem to have supplied a big batch of lights with a manufacturing fault.
Having said that though, JLR is definitely to blame here too because they obviously are ultimately responsible for the procurement of these parts and should own up and replace them as a goodwill gesture also for cars out of the initial warranty, considering the ridiculous cost of the headlight assembly.
I just consider myself lucky that my driver side DRL is only slightly dimmer and not 50% like in some other cars, hoping that it doesn't get worse. I also noticed that the difference is virtually invisible when I have the LED headlights on. Maybe it's also something for you guys to check. Maybe having the headlights on is a way to conceal the issue a bit.
The culprit here seems to be the French supplier Valeo that produces these lights and just seem to have supplied a big batch of lights with a manufacturing fault.
Having said that though, JLR is definitely to blame here too because they obviously are ultimately responsible for the procurement of these parts and should own up and replace them as a goodwill gesture also for cars out of the initial warranty, considering the ridiculous cost of the headlight assembly.
I just consider myself lucky that my driver side DRL is only slightly dimmer and not 50% like in some other cars, hoping that it doesn't get worse. I also noticed that the difference is virtually invisible when I have the LED headlights on. Maybe it's also something for you guys to check. Maybe having the headlights on is a way to conceal the issue a bit.
#37
Same issue driver’s side failure TWICE
F-Type model 2020, last pre facelift version.
In 2023, my car was out of warranty for 6 months when the DLR on the driver’s side lost half its normal intensity.
Official Jag dealer’s offer was over 4000 Euro ($4500) to replace entire unit.
Non-official dealer was kind enough to source a used unit (no warranty of course) and got me going again for less than a 1000 Euro.
Fast forward one year … Now the replacement unit also failed.
Jaguar Belgium say this is normal wear and seem to think it’s perfectly acceptable to spend 4000 Euro on a new headlight, every few years.
I own an F-Pace too and my previous one was a XF. This is what I get as loyal customer service. No more Jaguars for me.
If anyone has an idea to completely turn DRL off, please let me know.
F-Type model 2020, last pre facelift version.
In 2023, my car was out of warranty for 6 months when the DLR on the driver’s side lost half its normal intensity.
Official Jag dealer’s offer was over 4000 Euro ($4500) to replace entire unit.
Non-official dealer was kind enough to source a used unit (no warranty of course) and got me going again for less than a 1000 Euro.
Fast forward one year … Now the replacement unit also failed.
Jaguar Belgium say this is normal wear and seem to think it’s perfectly acceptable to spend 4000 Euro on a new headlight, every few years.
I own an F-Pace too and my previous one was a XF. This is what I get as loyal customer service. No more Jaguars for me.
If anyone has an idea to completely turn DRL off, please let me know.
#38
Valeo, on their website claim LED lights, '...L.E.D.s have a lower power consumption and last entire car lifetime.'
https://www.valeoservice.co.uk/en-uk...tems/headlamps
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#40
Fortunately, when the left DRL failed on my 2018 F-Type the entire headlamp assembly was replaced without cost under an extended Jaguar warranty. And the DRL failed on the replacement headlamp assembly before it even left the dealer! That too was replaced under the extended warranty but it seems to be working as intended since then.
Sadly, I noticed other makes of vehicles with a failed DRL; however, those DRLs are separate from the headlamp assemblies. I assume that the cost to replace a DRL would be far less than replacing an entire headlamp assembly.
For those of you old anuff to remember, we used to have but two universal, rectangular sealed beam units and two round sealed beam units that were required in the USA. And they were made of durable glass - not some kind of plastic that fogs over as it ages! They looked ugly as sin and provided little illumination with their incandescent bulbs but replacements were readily available everywhere for a very reasonable price because lots of companies manufactured them. Now, every LED headlamp, taillamp, and side marker lamp is unique to a single make and model vehicle or year. That's not a problem if the LEDs do last longer than a vehicle except they oftentimes don't. How many of us will keep our vehicles for 16 years like I did with one of my 1990 vintage Toyota vehicles? Will the LEDs still work. If not, will replacement headlamps still be available? Many times, standardisation is a good thing. All that had to be done was substitute an LED, halogen, or HID bulb for the incandescent bulb; in the future, maybe even a laser bulb. Every car and truck manufacturer and auto parts store would only have to stock four sizes of headlamps. What a simple idea!
Sadly, I noticed other makes of vehicles with a failed DRL; however, those DRLs are separate from the headlamp assemblies. I assume that the cost to replace a DRL would be far less than replacing an entire headlamp assembly.
For those of you old anuff to remember, we used to have but two universal, rectangular sealed beam units and two round sealed beam units that were required in the USA. And they were made of durable glass - not some kind of plastic that fogs over as it ages! They looked ugly as sin and provided little illumination with their incandescent bulbs but replacements were readily available everywhere for a very reasonable price because lots of companies manufactured them. Now, every LED headlamp, taillamp, and side marker lamp is unique to a single make and model vehicle or year. That's not a problem if the LEDs do last longer than a vehicle except they oftentimes don't. How many of us will keep our vehicles for 16 years like I did with one of my 1990 vintage Toyota vehicles? Will the LEDs still work. If not, will replacement headlamps still be available? Many times, standardisation is a good thing. All that had to be done was substitute an LED, halogen, or HID bulb for the incandescent bulb; in the future, maybe even a laser bulb. Every car and truck manufacturer and auto parts store would only have to stock four sizes of headlamps. What a simple idea!
Last edited by Ichi Ban; 08-01-2024 at 06:46 PM.