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Old 07-28-2020, 07:16 PM
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I’m looking for some help and guidance. I installed a Mina Gallery upper intake tube, Mina Galley’s lower intake, and VAP Tune. When I’m cruising on the highway (75ish mph) and stomp on the gas, it downshifts and when it hits 6k’ish RPMs it starts to bounce like it’s hitting the rev limiter and won’t shift unless I come off the gas or shift manually. When I put the stock file back on the problem goes away. Chris from VAP has been great and is extremely helpful, he is sending me numerous updated tunes until the issue goes away. Has anyone else experienced this? What are your thoughts/opinions? And do you think it could be more so a tube issue or intake issue or both?

At this time I’m unable to upload the video clips.
 

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For some reason the video clips are not uploading or attaching...
 
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Originally Posted by F-Type R 16
For some reason the video clips are not uploading or attaching...
Post them on YouTube and then link them.
 
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Originally Posted by F-Type R 16
Hello all,

I’m looking for some help and guidance. I installed a Mina Gallery upper intake tube, Mina Galley’s lower intake, and VAP Tune. When I’m cruising on the highway (75ish mph) and stomp on the gas, it downshifts and when it hits 6k’ish RPMs it starts to bounce like it’s hitting the rev limiter and won’t shift unless I come off the gas or shift manually. When I put the stock file back on the problem goes away. Chris from VAP has been great and is extremely helpful, he is sending me numerous updated tunes until the issue goes away. Has anyone else experienced this? What are your thoughts/opinions? And do you think it could be more so a tube issue or intake issue or both?

At this time I’m unable to upload the video clips.
If the problem is not present with the Mina setup and the stock tune, but is present with the Mina setup with the VAP tune, then I would think it is related to the VAP tune and not the Mina intake system.
 
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If the problem is not present with the Mina setup and the stock tune, but is present with the Mina setup with the VAP tune, then I would think it is related to the VAP tune and not the Mina intake system.
+1 - Sounds like you have already identified the issue. Without tune(stock file) no issues, with tune issues. Many of us have both intakes and no tune, and NO issue....So sounds like a tune issue.

Also, these intakes "MAY" create a slightly higher air flow (maybe)...but mainly just increase sound, so I cannot imagine with or without a tune, that the intakes would do anything, unless they are not seated properly and you are somehow getting unmetered air into your system.

So leaks would be the only thing the intakes could possibly add to the issue in my opinion.

Good luck.
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Uploaded the video on YouTube, here’s the link

 
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Post them on YouTube and then link them.
great idea, didn’t even think of it. Thanks I just posted it.
 
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great idea, didn’t even think of it. Thanks I just posted it.
Hard to tell from this clip, but from what I can see/hear, it looks/sounds like the rev limiter was lowered with the tune. Again, hard to discern, but sounds like bouncing off the rev limiter, but it is not to redline yet....rev limiter lowered (they can be changed with tunes).

You could probably hear better than I can on the video...just my thought.

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Originally Posted by Therock88
Hard to tell from this clip, but from what I can see/hear, it looks/sounds like the rev limiter was lowered with the tune. Again, hard to discern, but sounds like bouncing off the rev limiter, but it is not to redline yet....rev limiter lowered (they can be changed with tunes).

You could probably hear better than I can on the video...just my thought.

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That was my idea, when I spoke to Chris/VAP he said I have the standard tune he sends out for these cars and that the rev limiter is set currently. We’re both mind boggled but he’s working with me to find the issue out and fix it.
 
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Originally Posted by F-Type R 16
That was my idea, when I spoke to Chris/VAP he said I have the standard tune he sends out for these cars and that the rev limiter is set currently. We’re both mind boggled but he’s working with me to find the issue out and fix it.
Yeah....What I have found with Jaguars (I am much more familiar with Porsches and never had this issue), is you cannot assume ANYTHING (even on same model) is standard/consistent. Seems like they (JLR) use up whatever they have and then re-tool during assembly. Likely why my VAP AWD R Lowering springs that worked on 100's of cars, dropped mine like a Civic! Turned out my Factory stock F-Type R AWD, has RWD front springs...Other examples as well.

Good luck with it!

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Could it be that the tables are not setup for the free flow of the Mina intake, i.e it's setup for the OEM intake.

I know it's a long shot and doubt if it's really quantifiable, but seems like the only odd variable out.
So many people have the VAP tune and OEM intakes without any issues...
 
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Could it be that the tables are not setup for the free flow of the Mina intake, i.e it's setup for the OEM intake.

I know it's a long shot and doubt if it's really quantifiable, but seems like the only odd variable out.
So many people have the VAP tune and OEM intakes without any issues...
Chris was saying that too but I informed him of all the mods and he said it shouldn’t be a problem but it may be worth trying to put the OEM intakes back on. I just can’t swap them out at the moment due to have my garage floor redone. But again, lots of people have intakes with the VAP and no issues too. It’s just a weird case in my opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by F-Type R 16
Chris was saying that too but I informed him of all the mods and he said it shouldn’t be a problem but it may be worth trying to put the OEM intakes back on. I just can’t swap them out at the moment due to have my garage floor redone. But again, lots of people have intakes with the VAP and no issues too. It’s just a weird case in my opinion.
The only significant difference I can think of is the relocation of the MAF sensor on the lower Mina intake. That might be creating an issue for a tuned engine.

Another few weeks we’ll see if we have the same problem on the V6.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
The only significant difference I can think of is the relocation of the MAF sensor on the lower Mina intake. That might be creating an issue for a tuned engine.

Another few weeks we’ll see if we have the same problem on the V6.
That’s a good thought but under WOT the MAF doesn’t come into play, right? Wouldn’t it cause drive-ability issues throughout the RPMs and possibly throw a code? I’m stumped haha when I’m able to I’m going to put the stock intake on just to make sure.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
The only significant difference I can think of is the relocation of the MAF sensor on the lower Mina intake. That might be creating an issue for a tuned engine.

Another few weeks we’ll see if we have the same problem on the V6.
What's on the horizon in to weeks? My upper Mina intake should arrive tomorrow, woo hoo!
 
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What's on the horizon in to weeks? My upper Mina intake should arrive tomorrow, woo hoo!
As soon as my lower Mina intake arrives, I’ll be installing it. Hopefully I don’t suffer the same cut out at 6000 rpm.
 
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As soon as my lower Mina intake arrives, I’ll be installing it. Hopefully I don’t suffer the same cut out at 6000 rpm.
You will, however, suffer the same non-auto upshift the OP complained about ...
 
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As soon as my lower Mina intake arrives, I’ll be installing it. Hopefully I don’t suffer the same cut out at 6000 rpm.
Pray tell, how does one obtain this mythical Mina Gallery lower intake?
Every time I check their site, including 20 seconds ago, there is no trace of it!
 
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Pray tell, how does one obtain this mythical Mina Gallery lower intake?
Every time I check their site, including 20 seconds ago, there is no trace of it!
crickets, I think that means if Unhinged told you he would have to send someone down under to snuff you out.
 
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
Pray tell, how does one obtain this mythical Mina Gallery lower intake?
Every time I check their site, including 20 seconds ago, there is no trace of it!
They do not have them on their product list yet. I believe you have to give them a call to order them as they are a newer product.

International callers: 1-818-342-0273

You can also email them @ info@minagallery.com

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