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Old 01-12-2021, 08:17 AM
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Have the pops and burbles been neutered on the '19/'20 models? I know that this is so for the '21's. Just curious.
 
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Originally Posted by SonofGaladriel
Have the pops and burbles been neutered on the '19/'20 models? I know that this is so for the '21's. Just curious.
They are muted for all model years if you allow them to apply updates to the tune.
 
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Old 01-12-2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
They are muted for all model years if you allow them to apply updates to the tune.

I wasn't aware of this. How do you prevent them from applying updates? Simply tell them not to?
 
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Old 01-12-2021, 01:08 PM
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I wasn't aware of this. How do you prevent them from applying updates? Simply tell them not to?
That what i was doing. I had no choice but to allow them to update the OEM tune recently when the old one kept throwing a code after the new engine was installed. Fortunately, the VAP upload reversed the muting problem.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
They are muted for all model years if you allow them to apply updates to the tune.
The only thing that was muted on my MY!8 after the software updates was it's slightly less noisy on startup, not actually muted at all!
And the driving noise hasn't changed at all. I suspect the later years were more noise reg. compliant from the factory.
 
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The only thing that was muted on my MY!8 after the software updates was it's slightly less noisy on startup, not actually muted at all!
And the driving noise hasn't changed at all. I suspect the later years were more noise reg. compliant from the factory.
I believe the '18 was already muted from previous years.
 
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Old 01-12-2021, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
I believe the '18 was already muted from previous years.
No, it definitely changed slightly after the software updates, and it doesn't sound muted!
 
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My 19 has had one service so far and if its muted I'd like to hear it unmuted. I don't think so in my case. I asked the SA about it and he never heard anything about a software mute but that doesn't really mean there isn't.
 
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Originally Posted by SonofGaladriel
Have the pops and burbles been neutered on the '19/'20 models? I know that this is so for the '21's. Just curious.
I have the last F-type 2021 P450 (610hp), they have only silenced the exhaust at low revs, but when the exhaust valve is open after about 3400 , the glorious exhaust sound is back again with pops, burbles and BANGS! (sometime )
 
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I have owned a 14' v8-s, now a 16' R, and also spent extensive times in the 2020+ v8 cars, I can attest that the 14-15 cars are the loudest, then the pops get a bit muted and less in durations with the 16-19, the 20 and up are the most quiet. If you have never owned a 19' or earlier models, you will think that the 20+ are just as loud. However, for those who have had seat times behind all three software version, the differences are noticeable. To my ears, if the 14-15' are 100% in volumes with the amount of over run pops and their durations, then the 16-19 is 80%, and the 20+ is about 40% of the original.
 

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Originally Posted by Lizard
I have owned a 14' v8-s, now a 16' R, and also spent extensive times in the 2020+ v8 cars, I can attest that the 14-15 cars are the loudest, then the pops get a bit muted and less in durations with the 16-19, the 20 and up are the most quiet. If you have never owned a 19' or earlier models, you will think that the 20+ are just as loud. However, for those who have had seat times behind all three software version, the differences are noticeable. To my ears, if the 14-15' are 100% in volumes with the amount of over run pops and their durations, then the 16-19 is 80%, and the 20+ is about 40% of the original.
Not trying to discredit your experience at all, but just to play devil's advocate... could the exhaust just open up more on the older broken-in cars (vs. newer with fewer miles)? Or were you comparing them at similar mileages?
 
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Originally Posted by spegor
I have the last F-type 2021 P450 (610hp), they have only silenced the exhaust at low revs, but when the exhaust valve is open after about 3400 , the glorious exhaust sound is back again with pops, burbles and BANGS! (sometime )
I presume you mean the latest ftype not last, also why have you put 610hp in brackets, have you had it mapped?
If so i didnt think anyone had tuned the newer ones yet!!
 
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I presume you mean the latest ftype not last, also why have you put 610hp in brackets, have you had it mapped?
If so i didnt think anyone had tuned the newer ones yet!!

(VAP stg1)
 
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Originally Posted by Lizard
I have owned a 14' v8-s, now a 16' R, and also spent extensive times in the 2020+ v8 cars, I can attest that the 14-15 cars are the loudest, then the pops get a bit muted and less in durations with the 16-19, the 20 and up are the most quiet. If you have never owned a 19' or earlier models, you will think that the 20+ are just as loud. However, for those who have had seat times behind all three software version, the differences are noticeable. To my ears, if the 14-15' are 100% in volumes with the amount of over run pops and their durations, then the 16-19 is 80%, and the 20+ is about 40% of the original.
Interesting. Considering my 2021 f-type is very loud when I do full throttle over 3.400 even if compared with my previous V6 S, the 2021 V8 is louder especially with new entry BANG really loud 😁. So the older V8 F-type had to be incredibly noisy
 
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Is there a particulate filter on the latest models?
 
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Originally Posted by spegor
I have the last F-type 2021 P450 (610hp), they have only silenced the exhaust at low revs, but when the exhaust valve is open after about 3400 , the glorious exhaust sound is back again with pops, burbles and BANGS! (sometime )
I don't understand this and no offense but I don't really believe it. I just drove 500 miles to test drive a 2019 SVR and it wouldn't crackle at all. Not even close to the older ones. How can some crackle and some don't?
 
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Originally Posted by Brian McCann
I don't understand this and no offense but I don't really believe it. I just drove 500 miles to test drive a 2019 SVR and it wouldn't crackle at all. Not even close to the older ones. How can some crackle and some don't?
Coz he has a VAP tune on it (tune only no pulley(s)) and that tune resurrects the snap crackle and pop.
 
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Coz he has a VAP tune on it (tune only no pulley(s)) and that tune resurrects the snap crackle and pop.
Do you know he has a tune? There are several people claiming they have crackling with no tune and I don't know what to believe.


Does this sound like a tune? Cause this is perfect. The one I drove today didn't do any of this.
 
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Originally Posted by Brian McCann
Does this sound like a tune? Cause this is perfect. The one I drove today didn't do any of this.
Did you drive it in Dynamic Mode with Sport/Manual engaged? That is the recipe for the most amount of pops/crackles/overrun. My 2018 could be driven in regular mode and get plenty of it above 3500 RPM, but my 2023 requires Dynamic and Sport/Manual to both be activated in order to get the cackling.
 
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Originally Posted by Brian McCann
Do you know he has a tune?
His signature said his P450 had 605HP. So yes, a tune.
 


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