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Old 01-01-2015, 09:15 PM
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I wonder if they are using an outside bank? I like the idea of a 7500 mile lease.
Jaguar doesn't offer 7500 mile leases? I know Porsche offers 24 month 5000 mile leases.
 
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I did not ask my cousin about the mileage restrictions, however in three years he only put 9000 miles on his Audi S5 so 7500/year would not be a problem for him. I asked him if the lease offered him was for a 2014 or 2015, he said it was for a 2015 (he's pretty sure). And finally he said the sticker on the car was approximately $107,000. Hornburg told him they were able to package several factory incentives together to get to that rate. The Porsche, on a considerably less expensive car, was 75% higher per month with 250% higher on the down payment. This deal, although he didn't take it, seems to be an incredibly good one.

For anyone in Southern California (or elsewhere) interested in more information, my cousin said he would provide the saleman's contact information as well as the details of the offer. Just let me know.
Tell your cousin to check back with the Porsche dealers every now and then. Porsche (like other car companies) periodically will have special lease incentives. Overall, I would say that Porsche leases are generally better than Jaguar leases because the residual is better. PFS (Porsche Financial Services) inflates the residual but then charges higher money factor. The thing you don't want to do with Porsche leases is buy out at the end because the residual is too high IMO.
 
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Chase is the only lessor for Jag (you might be able to go with US Bank but good luck with those residuals) and their std tier 1 F Type R buy rate at 36 months was .00107 and that was a few months ago. I seriously doubt it went up during this highline car sale push. Jag/Chase is subvening certain models. EG the money factor was .00088 on the V6 S vert--- that's cheap lease money (2.11%) as money factors on leases are always higher than retail money unless subvented via the OEM.


The effective apr on that money factor (.00107) is 2.57%.
 
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Originally Posted by shift
Jaguar doesn't offer 7500 mile leases? I know Porsche offers 24 month 5000 mile leases.


Chase offers both a 7500 and 5000 mile lease. (+4 and +5 on the residual percentage).
 
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Just considering the new F type "R" and was wondering if dealers are discounting the current 15 models? There sure seems to be a large inventory of cars available.


What should one expect off the sticker price of let's say $106K


No lease, just straight out purchase.


Thanks,
 
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Originally Posted by CAracer
Just considering the new F type "R" and was wondering if dealers are discounting the current 15 models? There sure seems to be a large inventory of cars available.


What should one expect off the sticker price of let's say $106K


No lease, just straight out purchase.


Thanks,
I would say by this time of year with the '16s around the corner...$10K range minimum.
 
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Old 01-14-2015, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by buickfunnycar.com
I would say by this time of year with the '16s around the corner...$10K range minimum.
I'd say $10K max at this point. My local dealer still had a '14 V8S convertible still on the lot just 3 weeks ago. They discounted that car $18K and sold it.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
I'd say $10K max at this point. My local dealer still had a '14 V8S convertible still on the lot just 3 weeks ago. They discounted that car $18K and sold it.
Here are the discounts I've seen over the past 3 weeks for NEW cars:
$0-5k 2016
$5-10k for 2015
$10-15k for 2014

I've seen some fabulous deals around $80k for '15 V8Ss with under 3k miles. Makes one wonder about the strength of the resale value.
 
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Thanks guys for all the quick replies.


I've seen quite a few 15's on Autotrader at full MSRP pricing When will the dealers open with the discounts? I guess if one visits the dealership, they will be more than willing to show their hand on pricing.
 
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Old 01-14-2015, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CAracer
Thanks guys for all the quick replies.


I've seen quite a few 15's on Autotrader at full MSRP pricing When will the dealers open with the discounts? I guess if one visits the dealership, they will be more than willing to show their hand on pricing.
Go to the AAA site and use their new car buying service. They'll send you different discount certificates for 2 or three "OnLine" dealers in your area. If you like the discount walk that certificate in to the dealer of your choice and there's little haggling. These deals seem to be better than the ones they offer on the lot. I was even able to use one of those certificates for a '15 to get the same discount on an order for a '16. Also be certain to take advantage of the additional $2500 JCNA club discount if you take delivery before March 31.
 
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
Here are the discounts I've seen over the past 3 weeks for NEW cars:
$0-5k 2016
$5-10k for 2015
$10-15k for 2014

I've seen some fabulous deals around $80k for '15 V8Ss with under 3k miles. Makes one wonder about the strength of the resale value.
The base cars seem to be holding up pretty well. As with most makes, highly-optioned cars and higher dollar cars tend to suffer more depreciation percentage-wise, but there are always exceptions to that general principle.
 
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Originally Posted by CAracer
Just considering the new F type "R" and was wondering if dealers are discounting the current 15 models? There sure seems to be a large inventory of cars available.


What should one expect off the sticker price of let's say $106K


No lease, just straight out purchase.


Thanks,
I know you're in a different market to me, but I was given a 13% discount on mine just prior to Christmas. I was seriously considering an AWD but couldn't ignore this price (combined with not wanting to wait 6 months)
 
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Don't forget www.truecar.com for pricing.
 
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Has anybody used truecar.com? The info seems pretty interesting:

 
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These are the transactions thru manheim auto auctions on used vehicles, on the Coupe R. Above, below or AVG is their condition.

10/27/14 DFW Regular $94,000 439 Avg RED 8G A Yes
12/04/14 RIVRSIDE Regular $96,000 1,827 Above WHITE 8G A Yes
12/10/14 ATLANTA Lease $95,400 2,613 Avg ITALIANR 8G A Yes
12/10/14 ATLANTA Lease $91,200 5,468 Avg RED 8G P Yes
12/18/14 PA Lease $91,000 4,095 Avg WHITE 8G P Yes
01/07/15 ATLANTA Lease $86,000 8,304 Below ITALIANR 8G A Yes


Jaguar is doing a smart thing to maintain exclusivity. For the time being they only resell the used F's to Jaguar franchised dealers.
 

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Old 01-15-2015, 12:18 PM
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Interesting indeed. I beat TrueCar by $5K on my F-Type, and my wife just purchased a '15 MB C-300 and also beat their price by $4K. I just pulled the numbers for both cars identically equipped.
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Interesting indeed. I beat TrueCar by $5K on my F-Type, and my wife just purchased a '15 MB C-300 and also beat their price by $4K. I just pulled the numbers for both cars identically equipped.
In fairness to TrueCar, I mis-spoke on the C-300 price above. We did not beat their price, but matched it within $200 without using them. However, we did negotiate hard, and had I used them, I probably wouldn't have had to expend all that effort.

As it turns out, I mistakenly built a more expensive car when using their system the first time, which was the basis for my incorrect assertion above. When I went back to recheck, I paid closer attention and built it more carefully so that it exactly matched our window sticker.

I did, however, beat their F-Type pricing by $5K, but that was on a '14 last June, so I would have expected a deeper discount than available on 15 cars right now.
 

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As long as we're talking discounts...I purchased my 2015 V6S mid-Oct with an MSRP (including dealer destination charges) of just north of $93,000 (or was it $92,000?, don't have the sticker in front of me) and paid $82,000 (roughly 12% off MSRP, 11% if the latter). Thought that was a great deal - combined with $20,000 down and 1.89% financing for 5-years.

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Originally Posted by lhoboy
Makes one wonder about the strength of the resale value.
1. Resale values and used cars. You are taking a large hit. No choice.

2. We are talking Jag here. Lets keep it real. Deduct extra. Quite a lot.

It's all part of the game. You have to pay to play and there aint no point worrying about it afterwards........
 
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Originally Posted by Spiderv6
1. Resale values and used cars. You are taking a large hit. No choice.

2. We are talking Jag here. Lets keep it real. Deduct extra. Quite a lot.

It's all part of the game. You have to pay to play and there aint no point worrying about it afterwards........
As said, makes me wonder...not worry.

 
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