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A BMW I owned until last year had an oil pressure gauge whose reading varied with engine temperature. Despite not having a pressure transducer.

I believe they make those in Germsny?

How is your warranty claim coming along?
 
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The issue with the engines was reported to be a clearance issue with the connecting rod bearings. The original poster is not trolling. This is why I never posted on this issue.
 
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Old 07-16-2015, 10:06 PM
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JgaXkr,

Thanks. I never thought he was. It's a shame he was treated badly for sharing what I felt was very useful information.
 
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Old 07-17-2015, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by JgaXkr
The issue with the engines was reported to be a clearance issue with the connecting rod bearings. The original poster is not trolling. This is why I never posted on this issue.

JagXkr can you reveal the source of this information ?


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Old 07-17-2015, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JgaXkr
The issue with the engines was reported to be a clearance issue with the connecting rod bearings. The original poster is not trolling. This is why I never posted on this issue.
Tell me more please
 
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Old 07-17-2015, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JgaXkr
The issue with the engines was reported to be a clearance issue with the connecting rod bearings. The original poster is not trolling. This is why I never posted on this issue.
Are you referring to another thread?
 
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Old 07-17-2015, 09:55 AM
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Can we infer that this problem was corrected in production at some point and oil has nothing to do with it?
 
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Old 07-17-2015, 10:28 AM
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As for the fires, has something like a broken/separated fuel line, or that high pressure fuel rail been excluded as a cause? Has any cause been established in Germany? I understand it would be tough given the magnitude of the destruction of those cars.

Again, have we any examples of this in the US or other countries?
 
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Originally Posted by F-typical
A BMW I owned until last year had an oil pressure gauge whose reading varied with engine temperature. Despite not having a pressure transducer.

I believe they make those in Germsny?

How is your warranty claim coming along?
Make what? BMWs,oil pressure gauges or pressure transducers?
 
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Old 07-17-2015, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sandmann62
The Problem seems to be that there is no way to monitor oil themperature and pressure.
That is an excellent point.

The recommended 0-20W oil appears far too thin for any high temperature driving. For my new Stingray, GM recommends 5-30 oils for general driving but, since the engine oil temps in the Stingray quickly rise to 300 F, GM recommends 15-50 W Mobil 1 for track driving.

Personally, I use 15-50 for everyday driving as it provides a good safety cushion of 30-35 F degrees of additional breakdown protection over the 5-30 oil and likely more over the 0-20 oils.

Not having any idea how hot the Jaguar engine oil runs under high RPM driving conditions is like playing Russian roulette with your engine. If the Jag oil temps are running similar temps as the Stingray at high RPMs (300F+) then I would say that the 0-20 oils are going to be highly suspect for providing that protective film between the moving parts.

I live in an area where the temps during the summer are almost always over 90F, every single day. You push an engine at high RPMs (4000+ sustained) under those temps and, unless proper engine oil cooling is provided, your oil temps will exceed 300F and with the 0-20 oils you would be risking engine damage.

It is simply unbelievable that Jaguar does not provide temp readouts for all parameters, engine oil, coolant and transmission oil.
 
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Old 07-17-2015, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by axr6
It is simply unbelievable that Jaguar does not provide temp readouts for all parameters, engine oil, coolant and transmission oil.
+1.
 
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Old 07-27-2015, 01:45 AM
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I have to correct myself:
- it's not a specific german problem
- V8 seem also to be affected.


SAJWA6GL0EMK08004 2014 JAGUAR F-TYPE V8 Copart Cars


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Old 07-27-2015, 01:53 AM
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If its just the one V8 where all the rest have been V6S, it could be that the V8 fire cited here is unrelated to the more common V6 issue. Or it could be that they just have to be pushed even harder to see the issue.
 
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Old 07-27-2015, 07:28 AM
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This is how the car was introduced - perhaps its all for marketing

 
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:16 PM
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RE: the concern about oil temperatures
Has anyone pulled a sample and sent it off for analysis after 5K miles or so? I will be, but even though I'm down less than a week before expected delivery, it'll be a bit before I've racked up several thousand miles. However, I will be getting delivery just in time for the heat.


That'd show if the oil is breaking down.


As for gauges? Those are getting more and more rare. Agreed that the F-Type should have them though, given it's sporting inclination. I suspect that they were left off to avoid confusing what is probably the bulk of their customer base.
 
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
RE: the concern about oil temperatures
Has anyone pulled a sample and sent it off for analysis after 5K miles or so?
I usually do this right after the break-in period. But it'll be several more months before I hit that at least. I am sure someone else here will have the opportunity earlier than I. I think we need to find someone with a V6S at least, as they seem to be the target demographic here.
 
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Old 07-28-2015, 05:36 AM
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Engines don't spontaneously combust when they overheat, nor have a ever heard of fires resulting from blown engines unless the fuel system was compromised as a result. It is more likely a fuel fitting is failing (perhaps under high heat circumstances).
 
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Old 07-28-2015, 07:45 AM
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With a hole in the side of the block the hot oil hits the catalyst & the car catches on fire.
 
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"I mean... It's a jaguar. Eventually it's gonna catch on fire."

Turns out Lucas was a safety feature all along. If it doesn't run, it doesn't burn.
 
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