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Old 09-22-2015, 10:00 PM
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I kind of like it, although I'd need to see it in person to make a final judgment. I expect that as an option it would be absurdly expensive. Do I like the carbon fiber diffuser? Sure. Is it worth anywhere near what they're asking? Nope. Not for someone who works for a living.
 
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Old 03-13-2022, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
I kind of like it, although I'd need to see it in person to make a final judgment. I expect that as an option it would be absurdly expensive. Do I like the carbon fiber diffuser? Sure. Is it worth anywhere near what they're asking? Nope. Not for someone who works for a living.
Another thread pointed to this one and what do I find but my 2015 self talking to me across the years. The funny part is that while I still work for a living I do now have that carbon fiber diffuser, acquired as closeout NOS for something like 75% off the original price. I've just looked up that spoiler and it shows as only fitting 2018-2021. I suspect the listing is inaccurate because the deployable rear spoiler fits 2015-2021. Unless the electronic doohickey that fools the car into not missing the deployable spoiler changed I can't see the difference. I might have to dig for old accessory brochures to see if the part number matches.
 
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
Another thread pointed to this one and what do I find but my 2015 self talking to me across the years. The funny part is that while I still work for a living I do now have that carbon fiber diffuser, acquired as closeout NOS for something like 75% off the original price. I've just looked up that spoiler and it shows as only fitting 2018-2021. I suspect the listing is inaccurate because the deployable rear spoiler fits 2015-2021. Unless the electronic doohickey that fools the car into not missing the deployable spoiler changed I can't see the difference. I might have to dig for old accessory brochures to see if the part number matches.
The fixed spoiler will, in fact, fit various models. If what you looked up indicates a fit for 18-21, and JLR spec. shows it fitting all the others (including 18-19), then it is very likely to fit them all (except maybe 2021 when they did the redesign)? I am referring to part# Spoiler, Rear - Jaguar (T2R19419LML) - to be clear.

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Old 03-13-2022, 01:34 PM
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The fixed spoiler will, in fact, fit various models. If what you looked up indicates a fit for 18-21, and JLR spec. shows it fitting all the others (including 18-19), then it is very likely to fit them all (except maybe 2021 when they did the redesign)? I am referring to part# Spoiler, Rear - Jaguar (T2R19419LML) - to be clear.

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What I looked up on the official Jaguar US accessories site was T2R25912LML, which shows 2018-2021, and a dealer's online site says it will not fit my 2016. The deployable spoiler is T2R8153LML and shows 2015-2021. I just looked up the part number you provided, T2R19419LML, at the dealer site I was using for reference and it shows as fitting 2016-2019. It's also about $300 more than the other. I'm not sure what the high-end body shop would charge to paint to match. That's another consideration.

Then again, the JLR listing for the carbon fiber 6MT shift knob said "shift knob, manual" but the fitment list shows only automatics. Evidence indicates their accuracy is less than 100% :/


I don't have a printed accessories catalog from MY2016 in my files, but suspect there it one somewhere in the sediment here. I might be in the mood for archaeology later.
 
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What I looked up on the official Jaguar US accessories site was T2R25912LML, which shows 2018-2021, and a dealer's online site says it will not fit my 2016. The deployable spoiler is T2R8153LML and shows 2015-2021. I just looked up the part number you provided, T2R19419LML, at the dealer site I was using for reference and it shows as fitting 2016-2019. It's also about $300 more than the other. I'm not sure what the high-end body shop would charge to paint to match. That's another consideration.

Then again, the JLR listing for the carbon fiber 6MT shift knob said "shift knob, manual" but the fitment list shows only automatics. Evidence indicates their accuracy is less than 100% :/


I don't have a printed accessories catalog from MY2016 in my files, but suspect there it one somewhere in the sediment here. I might be in the mood for archaeology later.
Prep, prime, paint to match (includes time to match color), and clear should be $300-$500 depending on labor rates and materials in your area.

I left my original decklid/spoiler with the BS and told them to match that perfectly, and they did...

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I know the T2R19419LML was the correct kit for MY16 car. I would assume there are some differences in what is included in the kit, as it is not just the wing. Comes with gaskets, control box, mounting plate, switches.
 
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Originally Posted by skizot
I know the T2R19419LML was the correct kit for MY16 car. I would assume there are some differences in what is included in the kit, as it is not just the wing. Comes with gaskets, control box, mounting plate, switches.
I know that it's a kit but was getting information on application that didn't jibe with my assumptions. The Jaguar USA site only showed the other part number and it was here I found out about that one. First-hand knowledge FTW. Thanks to both you and DC for the guidance.
 
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
I know that it's a kit but was getting information on application that didn't jibe with my assumptions. The Jaguar USA site only showed the other part number and it was here I found out about that one. First-hand knowledge FTW. Thanks to both you and DC for the guidance.
Here is the Installation guide that comes with the kit. Maybe helps??

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Old 03-14-2022, 09:56 AM
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Here is the Installation guide that comes with the kit. Maybe helps??
Yes, it does. I hadn't thought about the switches. Also, it notes SDD in the last step. As I recall, you have or have access to SDD. If so, what modification was needed? I thought the control box was enough to fool the existing system and no changes to the vehicle configuration were necessary.
 
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
Yes, it does. I hadn't thought about the switches. Also, it notes SDD in the last step. As I recall, you have or have access to SDD. If so, what modification was needed? I thought the control box was enough to fool the existing system and no changes to the vehicle configuration were necessary.
Yes...Like much of the JLR parts and documentation, it is hit or miss. I do have SDD and I had previously disabled the spoiler feature so it would not cap the top speed. However, I do not think any SDD coding is needed at all. That box that replaces the motor basically tells the ECU - "Nothing to see here, spoiler is fine...go about your business" So the car "thinks" the wing is working properly and no errors or speed limitations.

Here is what the box/module and mounting looks like too.

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OEM Motor on OEM Plate

 
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Old 03-15-2022, 08:07 AM
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I picked up a white one with module, plate everything just had to sprayed caledra red, bargain £380



 
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Originally Posted by powerhouse
I picked up a white one with module, plate everything just had to sprayed caledra red, bargain £380
Wow! That is a REALLY good price! Some people get a "deal" on the spoiler, and do not think about the plate and/or module, and end up with a really cool looking (and expensive) paper weight

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Old 03-15-2022, 07:13 PM
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Update: My local dealer says that T2R19419LML is superseded by T2R25912LML, and that both fit coupes of chassis number K22185 onwards.
 
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Old 03-24-2022, 09:06 PM
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Update: My local dealer says that T2R19419LML is superseded by T2R25912LML, and that both fit coupes of chassis number K22185 onwards.
Moar update: I ordered T2R25912LML at my local dealer and they called later to say that it was backordered, no expected delivery date. They also said that T2R19419LML was available and could be had in a day or two. I got it and it's now at the body shop to be painted. It came without instructions, so again thanks to @Therock88 for posting them up earlier. I won't have it back this weekend, but should by next. It's going to be a bit boy-racer, but it's easily reversible should I decide to lower the profile a little.
 
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Moar moar update:

I replaced the double switch (spoiler/eco) with the single eco switch. It seems that SDD is needed to tell the system that the one switch is for eco, not the spoiler. I've got eco that can't be disabled right now and an eco switch that tries to put the non-existent deployable spoiler in cleaning position. I'm going to put the double switch back in and see if it gives me switchable eco again.

Pretty minor problem, all things considered.

EDIT: I put the double switch back in and things are working as expected. The spoiler button gives an almost instant report that the spoiler is in cleaning position, but that's of no consequence.
 

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