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This is why you have to buy yours with 0 miles.


 
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Looks to me that the car is being used in a manner consistent with its design intent. I don't see a problem.

But, yes, if the idea of the car being deflowered by someone else is bothersome then buy one with zero miles!





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That's not driving it's abusing !
 
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Bit worrying that it dropped it's coolant after being run hard. Yes, a very hard run but it really should be able to take such a ragging. As much as I love my Jag, I get the feeling the Porsche would not have leaked a drop ....
 
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I agree. I would never buy a demo. In fact I have concerns about lot cars for the same reason. My dealer had a couple on the lot and he let me do an unsupervised test drive. I ignored break-in practices, revved the engine while still fairly cold. Then concluded I wasn't going to buy a car where several people had been doing this.
 
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Bit worrying that it dropped it's coolant after being run hard. Yes, a very hard run but it really should be able to take such a ragging. As much as I love my Jag, I get the feeling the Porsche would not have leaked a drop ....


I agree, but the F-Type was a no brainer for me because I'm tired of looking at that ancient Porsche design. The Jaguar looks cooler, sounds better, has a nicer interior and I hear it's even smoother on the roads (although not as smooth as the XKE), and in reality I won't be driving on a track.
 
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I agree. I would never buy a demo. In fact I have concerns about lot cars for the same reason. My dealer had a couple on the lot and he let me do an unsupervised test drive. I ignored break-in practices, revved the engine while still fairly cold. Then concluded I wasn't going to buy a car where several people had been doing this.
Is there a definitive guide anywhere on (a) what RPM practices to use for the first XYZ miles on the car and (b) what RPM practices to use during the first XYZ minutes of driving the car?


Mine still has under 500 miles and I've been revving it every now and then to 6,000. Maybe a few times a week. I'll also regularly rev it to 3,000 or 4,000 shortly after starting the car.
 
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Check out 'Breaking-In', in the Maintenance section of your manual (p. 134 in the 2nd edition of the US Convertible manual.)
 
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Originally Posted by lunagry
Is there a definitive guide anywhere on (a) what RPM practices to use for the first XYZ miles on the car and (b) what RPM practices to use during the first XYZ minutes of driving the car?


Mine still has under 500 miles and I've been revving it every now and then to 6,000. Maybe a few times a week. I'll also regularly rev it to 3,000 or 4,000 shortly after starting the car.
Oops, you already "abused it." Might as well have bought a "dealer demo."

While the break-in calls for keeping it under 4500 for the first 2K miles or so and then gradually increasing the revs, you'll probably be OK.
 
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Drive like you stole it. I don't think European manuals have the break-in disclaimer. People say it's to keep Americans from getting into accidents. Kind of ridiculous to keep it under 4500 RPMS for so many miles. So cars are barely driven (weekend/pleasure car). Would be years before breaking it in if you follow the US manual.
 
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Drive like you stole it. I don't think European manuals have the break-in disclaimer. People say it's to keep Americans from getting into accidents. Kind of ridiculous to keep it under 4500 RPMS for so many miles. So cars are barely driven (weekend/pleasure car). Would be years before breaking it in if you follow the US manual.
It took me less than 6 weeks to get past the "break-in" period. What good is a car that is not driven?
 
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Originally Posted by Foosh
It took me less than 6 weeks to get past the "break-in" period. What good is a car that is not driven?
Not driving your car is like not having sex with your GF so the next guy can have her
 
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Very hard miles. What I read into this is if you consider a Jaguar promotion car the mileage should be adjusted to read 10 X actual. Accordingly, if the promotion car reads 4,000 miles the actual wear and tear on the car is more like 40,000 miles. Adjust price accordingly. If you buy one don't take it home without a CPO warranty and the warranty should be free.


The sad and disconcerting thing about this is the abuse is not disclosed to potential buyers when the car goes on the lot for sale. The promotion cars are auctioned off to Jaguar dealerships and sold as demos and corporate cars. Demos and cars driven on the street are not subjected to this type of abuse. Shame on Jaguar for unloading these cars without full disclosure.
 

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Just out of curiosity do we know for a fact that the car in the video is a dealer demonstrator or factory 'press car' or similar? As opposed to a privately owned car?

Can we tell from the type of license plate ?

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Originally Posted by DGL

. Demos and cars driven on the street are not subjected to this type of abuse.


Heh heh...

Are you sure?

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I was just kidding. That's actually a real race driver's personal Jaguar. He owns that car.

Edit: actually I don't know if he owns that one but I heard he bought an F type.
 

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Doornbos is a Jag "ambassador". Here's another video,

 
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I did the Jaguar Performance Driving Academy at Monticello Raceway July 10th; got to drive all four of the R-Types on a track. The F-Type, in the hands of a professional driver, comes into the pits with smoking brakes (buy the ceramic brakes for the track). Interestingly, when the F-Types pitted (all the cars), THEY ASKED US NOT TO SWITCH THEM OFF -- the said after a hot track session, it was vitally important to let them idle to circulate the coolant to let them cool down. Like walking a race horse after a race...
Me, I'll have mine NEW with delivery miles please! (and it will be a S-Type for the street).
 
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Yup, let the car cool down a bit. Also, DO NOT engage the parking brakes after heavy brake usage.
 
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Originally Posted by familysimon
I did the Jaguar Performance Driving Academy at Monticello Raceway July 10th; got to drive all four of the R-Types on a track. The F-Type, in the hands of a professional driver, comes into the pits with smoking brakes (buy the ceramic brakes for the track). Interestingly, when the F-Types pitted (all the cars), THEY ASKED US NOT TO SWITCH THEM OFF -- the said after a hot track session, it was vitally important to let them idle to circulate the coolant to let them cool down. Like walking a race horse after a race... Me, I'll have mine NEW with delivery miles please! (and it will be a S-Type for the street).
With my M5 the cooling system continues to operate after you park the car. It's quite low d so you can here it. Often people tell me: "You forgot to switch off your car". But it is off its just cooling.

I would expect the R Coupe to do the same.
 


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