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Hi there

As its always best to throw in fresh pads with new rotors I am planning on some new pads front and rear.

Now on the stock brakes on the SVR, they seem adequate but don't really inspire confidence, particular in wet, they seem to lack initial bite.

Now of course the 2PC drilled disc will probably help a little with this as they will help prevent water being between pad and rotor surface.

But even in dry conditions I find the stock setup lacking a little in bite, now of course the stock pads seem quite low dust and are completely silent.

So what do you guys recommend as good front/rear pads replacement on the SVR that give some more bite but at same time are quiet like stock please?
 
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From: Paul Spipaul@wortec

Please find attached the details of the oem rotors.......they are very very heavy......

We hope to have designs finished early next week and a test set possibly early the following
week. I will email pictures when we are happy.







 

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Damn those are indeed heavy!

I am going to say Wortec will get the fronts down too 9.9-12kg depending on the design people go with.

The rears will be around 6-7kg again depending on design.

In short the results should be same weight savings as ceramic setup offers but at less than 1/4 of the cost.
 
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Originally Posted by Gibbo205
Damn those are indeed heavy!

I am going to say Wortec will get the fronts down too 9.9-12kg depending on the design people go with.

The rears will be around 6-7kg again depending on design.

In short the results should be same weight savings as ceramic setup offers but at less than 1/4 of the cost.
The real question is will they stop as good or better on the streets and on the track as oem
 
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I am going to go with EBC yellow stuff pads, are these correct ones for an SVR please?

https://www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/ebc-y..._p31343067.htm

https://www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/ebc-y..._p31343078.htm
 
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Originally Posted by zmoothg


The real question is will they stop as good or better on the streets and on the track as oem
They will be better for several reasons:

1. Less unsprung mass, less inertia to stop, more tyre contact patch on the road due to less unsprung weight so less skidding.
2. Drilled, grooves help with cooling, less fade.
3. 2PC design gives more air flow across the disc, less fade.
4. Suncut designs, further aid cooling.
5. Grooves / drills keep better pad contact and surfaces clean so better bite.


There is no downsides to lighter disc, especially 2PC ones, well there is one downside, cost.
 
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Originally Posted by Gibbo205
I am going to go with EBC yellow stuff pads, are these correct ones for an SVR please?

https://www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/ebc-y..._p31343067.htm

https://www.ebcbrakeshop.co.uk/ebc-y..._p31343078.htm
Yep, them's the correct pads for the iron 380 mm front and 376 mm rear brakes.
 
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How many needed to get a bigger discount?

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How many needed to get a bigger discount?

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Just pile on and add your name to the list if you are interested. We'll determine the price and discount after they've finished the design and testing. The real issue was to find enough buyers to make the manufacture worth their effort.
 
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Well I've ordered the EBC yelllow pads, should arrive in a couple of days.

Paul will hopefully be in touch over next few days to sort a date to do a trial fitment to my car hopefully sometime next week or week after.
 
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Just a quick update......

We have a design and have today cut the first test set of rotors ready to be heat treated....... Pictures attached. Not very exciting pictures but it shows we are well underway. When treated we will start machining.
 
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Soo moist looking at these rotors
 
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Looking at these rotors, my concern is that they will not be significantly lighter than the OEM rotors.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Looking at these rotors, my concern is that they will not be significantly lighter than the OEM rotors.
He hasn't measured the weight yet? What's the point of pumping out so many if it doesn't meet our requirements?
 
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Isn't the weight savings largely from the center?
 
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Originally Posted by zmoothg
He hasn't measured the weight yet? What's the point of pumping out so many if it doesn't meet our requirements?
My thoughts are these guys being doing this for years and they know what they are doing. As such they probably know exactly what the final product will weigh or roughly.

Hence them doing such a large initial batch, one would hope that such a well regarded and highly experienced company in motorsport knows exactly what they are doing.

Have faith!
 
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Originally Posted by zmoothg
He hasn't measured the weight yet? What's the point of pumping out so many if it doesn't meet our requirements?
Maybe they have and it's per expectation.

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Isn't the weight savings largely from the center?
Perhaps, but given the size of those trashcan lids, it's hard for me to imagine.

Originally Posted by Gibbo205
My thoughts are these guys being doing this for years and they know what they are doing. As such they probably know exactly what the final product will weigh or roughly.

Hence them doing such a large initial batch, one would hope that such a well regarded and highly experienced company in motorsport knows exactly what they are doing.

Have faith!
+1. I am certain they would not be investing time/money in this project unless they were confident that they can satisfy our needs. At the end of the day, with price and specs in hand, we can decide whether to make the investment.
Gibbo, please let us know when the test fit is scheduled.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Perhaps, but given the size of those trashcan lids, it's hard for me to imagine.
Didn't they offer for comparison weights from another 380mm disc? The part of the assembly that is the friction disc is unlikely to be much different, unless it's thinner or of a different material.

That reminds me of my first race bike. It had a plasma-coated aluminum rear brake disc. I don't think it would have lasted on the front, but the rear got minimal use, and it was really light. That bike was 242 lbs. wet, no gas. It was also designed for someone *much* shorter than me. I felt like Pretzel-Boy after 8 laps.
 
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
Didn't they offer for comparison weights from another 380mm disc? The part of the assembly that is the friction disc is unlikely to be much different, unless it's thinner or of a different material.

That reminds me of my first race bike. It had a plasma-coated aluminum rear brake disc. I don't think it would have lasted on the front, but the rear got minimal use, and it was really light. That bike was 242 lbs. wet, no gas. It was also designed for someone *much* shorter than me. I felt like Pretzel-Boy after 8 laps.
Yes similar sized disc they made for Mustang, Porsche were 9.5-11kg for the fronts, if ours are that were looking at upto 7-8kg saving per front corner.
 


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