Having trouble justifying an F-Type V6 S Coupe
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Wow, that went OT real fast!
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I got the BIGGEST Over the windscreen "not drowning waving" gesture from a vert XK the other day and it just made me happy as all get out. "Vert life, yo". LOL =)
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Well I bought the Convertible, F-Type S, and whilst I think you make some valid points about raw data, you overlook one HUGE factor.
Youre buying soul. None of those other cars have soul, theyre just mindless copies of themselves (especially Porsches). This is the best looking and most stylish car out there (in my opinion). Its more than fast enough for driving around town and on the motorways, unless youre a proffessional racing driver, you dont need much more. If you are, then you want a dedicated race car, not a street legal car!
Youre buying soul. None of those other cars have soul, theyre just mindless copies of themselves (especially Porsches). This is the best looking and most stylish car out there (in my opinion). Its more than fast enough for driving around town and on the motorways, unless youre a proffessional racing driver, you dont need much more. If you are, then you want a dedicated race car, not a street legal car!
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I owned a Corvette Z06 for about 7 years. Powerful engine, but not much excitement. Ride, not comfortable at all. Quality of interior materials ... well, not the best.
Anyway, I could not justify the difference in price between a base F Type and the S. 40 additional horses, 1 second for 60 mph, and the "S" badge did not justified it for me. Instead, I went with the "smaller" base engine and invested in a fully loaded, manual transmission (the real thrill of a sports car), 20" tires with black rim, and other goodies. The R model with its massive 550 hp engine is in a different league altogether and worth very much, in my opinion, the high price, but I could not afford it.
Finally, I will just say that regardless which trim you go for, base, S, or R, this cat is a beautiful experience that will make you want to drive it more and more.
Anyway, I could not justify the difference in price between a base F Type and the S. 40 additional horses, 1 second for 60 mph, and the "S" badge did not justified it for me. Instead, I went with the "smaller" base engine and invested in a fully loaded, manual transmission (the real thrill of a sports car), 20" tires with black rim, and other goodies. The R model with its massive 550 hp engine is in a different league altogether and worth very much, in my opinion, the high price, but I could not afford it.
Finally, I will just say that regardless which trim you go for, base, S, or R, this cat is a beautiful experience that will make you want to drive it more and more.
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I owned a Corvette Z06 for about 7 years. Powerful engine, but not much excitement. Ride, not comfortable at all. Quality of interior materials ... well, not the best.
Anyway, I could not justify the difference in price between a base F Type and the S. 40 additional horses, 1 second for 60 mph, and the "S" badge did not justified it for me. Instead, I went with the "smaller" base engine and invested in a fully loaded, manual transmission (the real thrill of a sports car), 20" tires with black rim, and other goodies. The R model with its massive 550 hp engine is in a different league altogether and worth very much, in my opinion, the high price, but I could not afford it.
Finally, I will just say that regardless which trim you go for, base, S, or R, this cat is a beautiful experience that will make you want to drive it more and more.
Anyway, I could not justify the difference in price between a base F Type and the S. 40 additional horses, 1 second for 60 mph, and the "S" badge did not justified it for me. Instead, I went with the "smaller" base engine and invested in a fully loaded, manual transmission (the real thrill of a sports car), 20" tires with black rim, and other goodies. The R model with its massive 550 hp engine is in a different league altogether and worth very much, in my opinion, the high price, but I could not afford it.
Finally, I will just say that regardless which trim you go for, base, S, or R, this cat is a beautiful experience that will make you want to drive it more and more.
I agree w/ you and made the same decision. However, you forgot to add a decimal point. The difference is .1 second to 60.
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The 40 extra hp of the "S" do not come into play until you are more than 5000rpm. That's fascinating knowledge.
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I chose a AM Vantage over an R. Probably a full second or more 0 to 60, but in the real world that makes zero difference. I absolutely love everything about it, except for the key, I hate the key.
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So, honestly, when I started saving 10 years ago for a car, it was for an Aston. F-Type didn't exist. After Ian left, I didn't really love all the Aston designs since Ian moved on, but they were still my "dream" car solely because nothing else came close.
When the F-Type started appearing, I would immediately notice it. Every time. It took over for about 3 different cars I would spot... it just became my car. But, like an Aston, I knew I could never afford it. When I saw the specs, then the MSRP, I was sort of baffled how it could be so affordable. I also thought it was sort of silly, that Jag actually really ate into their market. Aston would always be very aspirational, but Jags could happen for more people and have a similar experience.
I am not sure if that ate into Aston's sales, but I know they have been waning and since last year are re-targeting the wealthy female market (or so says wiki).
After the F-Type announced a manual it was all over. Case closed. But then on a whim I got into an Aston at a local dealer, and wow. I am so happy... but someday maybe. I am not wont for anything. Someday I might get into an Aston, and mad respect that you got one!!
The whole point of this was this:
Jag's F-Type *must* be taking a chunk from other nicer "supercars" and luxury vehicles, a bit? I know that we are having some conversations about the SVR positioning vs just getting a custom R the way you want it.... but where the base 6 and "S" 6 have really taken the wind out of the sales of people considering an Aston, I imagine the "R" and AM are an incredibly similar and difficult decision. Meaning, if I want an Aston but can afford a 6cyl, it's a no brainer. If I had to decide between the R and the Aston, it would be the Aston. 100%. Not sure why, but I think I am much, MUCH less likely to die severely in an AM than a R. =)
Of course, I hope to own these 3 prior to passing on. Maybe just drive... all 1960
Maserati 3500 GT Vignale Spider
Aston Martin DB 4 Series 2
Ferrari 250 GT Cabriolet Series II
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I also thought it was sort of silly, that Jag actually really ate into their market. Aston would always be very aspirational, but Jags could happen for more people and have a similar experience.
I am not sure if that ate into Aston's sales, but I know they have been waning and since last year are re-targeting the wealthy female market
I am not sure if that ate into Aston's sales, but I know they have been waning and since last year are re-targeting the wealthy female market
Now that I have manual F-type my younger brother, after years of me trying to nag him to learn to drive stick, religiously taking lessons. In a month or so since I purchased it, he learned to row gears decently enough that I would consider letting him take Jag for a spin. Now, in his millennial-aged group of friends he is the only one who can drive stick. So I am afraid we are the last of the old guard.
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Wealthy women, that's probably why most dealers order the automatics, and people end up destroying the clutch. That's too funny wealthy women, everyone knows wealthy women either drive a Prius, Tesla or use Uber.
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Aston is planning to release Vantage S with the stick shift, so they certainly noticed. I am really glad there are still enough purists out there to create demand. For me, F-type was not even on a radar until I learned that it exists in manual.
Now that I have manual F-type my younger brother, after years of me trying to nag him to learn to drive stick, religiously taking lessons. In a month or so since I purchased it, he learned to row gears decently enough that I would consider letting him take Jag for a spin. Now, in his millennial-aged group of friends he is the only one who can drive stick. So I am afraid we are the last of the old guard.
Now that I have manual F-type my younger brother, after years of me trying to nag him to learn to drive stick, religiously taking lessons. In a month or so since I purchased it, he learned to row gears decently enough that I would consider letting him take Jag for a spin. Now, in his millennial-aged group of friends he is the only one who can drive stick. So I am afraid we are the last of the old guard.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...n-last-manual/
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Because it's glass and a slippery devil. I use the plastic on generally, if I drop the glass one and it shatters, it's $800 to replace. And I know with my luck I'll drop it some day.
Wealthy women, that's probably why most dealers order the automatics, and people end up destroying the clutch. That's too funny wealthy women, everyone knows wealthy women either drive a Prius, Tesla or use Uber.
Wealthy women, that's probably why most dealers order the automatics, and people end up destroying the clutch. That's too funny wealthy women, everyone knows wealthy women either drive a Prius, Tesla or use Uber.
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But... so the comment doesn't seem anecdotal or out of context about Aston:
Aston Martin targets female buyers - BBC News
targeting women
Aston Martin Looks to Attract Women Customers to Luxury Car Market | Glamour
targeting working moms
Why Aston Martin Is Marketing Its 'Most Important Car' Ever to Young Female Drivers | Adweek
marketing most important car ever to young female drivers
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It is positively insane at the ratio of the nicest luxury or super cars in Marin, CA that are driven by women. It seems the men take the Audi A4 or BMW, etc and the women get the first "toy" car. For awhile, I tried to keep up w/ "spotting" insane cars in this area, and I just had to totally abandon it. But in that time, it did become really clear to me just how large a market there is for female vs male drivers. I admit that 4 out of 5 F-Type drivers in this area are women.
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