How did you make your deal on a MY2016 ?
#22
3) They get bonuses and kick-backs from the factory for every car they sell, just like other marques. 4) Comments like "Jaguar dealers don't discount, or can't discount," and "Jaguars have pretty thin margins so we can't discount much," is just sales speak. Yes they can depending on how motivated they are to sell a car.
7) Forum members have indicated discounts of $1000 off, and 3% up to 6%, and even 7% off MSRP in one case on their purchases of a new F-Type. Any of this is doable from my experience. 8) Yes, this means you can buy an ordered Jaguar below Dealer Invoice, if you find a willing dealer. 9) And yes, they will make a profit on it. They will not sell a new car at a loss, unless there are some other reasons for it. One car I saw had repaired hail damage, for example.
I agree for the most part, though this can be a bit tough if you buy your car from a dealer that isn't close enough to do the follow-up service. Worse for those who buy from dealers hundreds of miles away or in another state.
#23
I've discussed this very subject with several service managers, all of whom essentially said:
"I don't care where you bought the car, I'm just happy you brought it here for service because that helps my numbers. The fact you didn't buy it here is the sales department's problem, not mine. They have their sales targets, and I have my own numbers to meet. I'll fight for you just as hard on warranty repairs because that's how I get paid by the manufacturer."
#24
I disagree that you are at a disadvantage when having your car serviced at a dealer other than where you purchased it. I've done this on more than a dozen different cars, and I always got the same new loaners of the same make, and the same quality of service.
I've discussed this very subject with several service managers, all of whom essentially said:
"I don't care where you bought the car, I'm just happy you brought it here for service because that helps my numbers. The fact you didn't buy it here is the sales department's problem, not mine. They have their sales targets, and I have my own numbers to meet. I'll fight for you just as hard on warranty repairs because that's how I get paid by the manufacturer."
I've discussed this very subject with several service managers, all of whom essentially said:
"I don't care where you bought the car, I'm just happy you brought it here for service because that helps my numbers. The fact you didn't buy it here is the sales department's problem, not mine. They have their sales targets, and I have my own numbers to meet. I'll fight for you just as hard on warranty repairs because that's how I get paid by the manufacturer."
Absolutely agree with you Foosh. Service is another revenue stream for the dealers; they make a lot of their money there. They aren't going to refuse service to any customer, or provide poor service, and Jaguar wouldn't tolerate if they did. (Ever been asked to fill out a follow-up survey?) But I have found that my sales rep was helpful in getting repairs and service when I needed them. I bought 3 cars over 7 years from the same guy; want to guess how I'm treated when I walk in the door? And I know that many have bought cars at a distance and obviously have their service and recalls done at the local dealer, and have been very successful with that strategy, both ends of it.
I'm guessing dealers make more profit in service than in sales, over the life of the car, much more. So the front of the store, sales, feeds business to the back of the store, service. Service managers want your business, and they'll do a good job for you because they want you to come back again in the future regardless of where you bought the car.
#25
I wasn't trying to suggest you'd get poor service by taking it to a dealer other than the one you bought it from. My comment was in reply to the note about the strong relationship with the dealer so he'd be your advocate in cases of issues with the car. It's hard to maintain that relationship when you're not local to the dealership you purchased your car at.
Personally, I shop around to buy the car at whichever dealership is able to get me the best combination of pricing and pre-sales support. I prefer to work with the same dealer when I can, but given my vehicle tastes change, I've rarely been doing so lately. However I always take the vehicle to whichever service center is most convenient, which is rarely attached to the dealership I purchased the vehicle at. I have a great relationship with my service center staff, since I'm in there at least every 6 months or so for maintenance.
Personally, I shop around to buy the car at whichever dealership is able to get me the best combination of pricing and pre-sales support. I prefer to work with the same dealer when I can, but given my vehicle tastes change, I've rarely been doing so lately. However I always take the vehicle to whichever service center is most convenient, which is rarely attached to the dealership I purchased the vehicle at. I have a great relationship with my service center staff, since I'm in there at least every 6 months or so for maintenance.
#26
Absolutely agree with you Foosh. Service is another revenue stream for the dealers; they make a lot of their money there. They aren't going to refuse service to any customer, or provide poor service, and Jaguar wouldn't tolerate if they did. (Ever been asked to fill out a follow-up survey?) But I have found that my sales rep was helpful in getting repairs and service when I needed them. I bought 3 cars over 7 years from the same guy; want to guess how I'm treated when I walk in the door? And I know that many have bought cars at a distance and obviously have their service and recalls done at the local dealer, and have been very successful with that strategy, both ends of it.
I'm guessing dealers make more profit in service than in sales, over the life of the car, much more. So the front of the store, sales, feeds business to the back of the store, service. Service managers want your business, and they'll do a good job for you because they want you to come back again in the future regardless of where you bought the car.
I'm guessing dealers make more profit in service than in sales, over the life of the car, much more. So the front of the store, sales, feeds business to the back of the store, service. Service managers want your business, and they'll do a good job for you because they want you to come back again in the future regardless of where you bought the car.
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