How are Jaguar / Dealers Not Aware of this???
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How are Jaguar / Dealers Not Aware of this???
4 times now over 5 years.....Car will NOT go to sleep, interior hazard light stays on never shuts off.
If you don't keep car hooked up to charger, battery will drain, won't be able to even get in car except for hidden emergency key.
Then battery will have to be disconnected for 15 secs or....if you can't get into the trunk....has to be jumped and that still may not work.
Does anyone with Jaguar care? NO!!! I've explained this problem to dealer multiple times. Happened AGAIN
There is a software/computer glitch....when dealer disconnects their code reader....if battery is not disconnected and reconnected.....when you get home, your car will sit in the garage and be dead the next day.
Last night, my dealer reset all the computers claiming this would permanently fix the issue instead of disconnecting the battery and reconnecting.
It's fixed...for now.
If you don't keep car hooked up to charger, battery will drain, won't be able to even get in car except for hidden emergency key.
Then battery will have to be disconnected for 15 secs or....if you can't get into the trunk....has to be jumped and that still may not work.
Does anyone with Jaguar care? NO!!! I've explained this problem to dealer multiple times. Happened AGAIN
There is a software/computer glitch....when dealer disconnects their code reader....if battery is not disconnected and reconnected.....when you get home, your car will sit in the garage and be dead the next day.
Last night, my dealer reset all the computers claiming this would permanently fix the issue instead of disconnecting the battery and reconnecting.
It's fixed...for now.
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Mahjik (08-12-2022)
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My local dealer is 4/5 (4 times good, 1 bad). That one time they screwed up they would not own up to it. I literally bailed on my final free oil change from them as they screwed up the oil change every time.
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Jaguar1611 (08-12-2022)
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Obviously who ever the tech at that particular dealership is just lazy or sloppy or both and not closing the session properly. Looks like OP will just need to do the battery disconnect every single time he goes there which is obviously frustrating and shouldn’t have to be done
Last edited by Borbor; 08-13-2022 at 12:08 AM.
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FWIW, I posed that same question when I took my MY21 in for its first maintenance. The service rep claimed that they use an automated computer program to connect to the OBD2, which supposedly automatically issues the code to close the port. Perhaps mumbo jumbo, but at least HE was aware of the issue.
I actually did get the dreaded "Please start engine" since then. But I've since attributed that my being stuck in a ferry line for nearly two hours. Since then, whenever I expect that I'll be sitting in the car for awhile, I make sure I first open the door briefly to trigger the shut-down sequence.
Googling around, this seems to be more common in the States than elsewhere... possibly due to over-abundant smog checks and cheap help..
But, a dead battery four times out of five? I'd put this in the category of "Fool me once...". Just sayin...
I actually did get the dreaded "Please start engine" since then. But I've since attributed that my being stuck in a ferry line for nearly two hours. Since then, whenever I expect that I'll be sitting in the car for awhile, I make sure I first open the door briefly to trigger the shut-down sequence.
Googling around, this seems to be more common in the States than elsewhere... possibly due to over-abundant smog checks and cheap help..
But, a dead battery four times out of five? I'd put this in the category of "Fool me once...". Just sayin...
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FWIW, I posed that same question when I took my MY21 in for its first maintenance. The service rep claimed that they use an automated computer program to connect to the OBD2, which supposedly automatically issues the code to close the port. Perhaps mumbo jumbo, but at least HE was aware of the issue.
I actually did get the dreaded "Please start engine" since then. But I've since attributed that my being stuck in a ferry line for nearly two hours. Since then, whenever I expect that I'll be sitting in the car for awhile, I make sure I first open the door briefly to trigger the shut-down sequence.
Googling around, this seems to be more common in the States than elsewhere... possibly due to over-abundant smog checks and cheap help..
But, a dead battery four times out of five? I'd put this in the category of "Fool me once...". Just sayin...
I actually did get the dreaded "Please start engine" since then. But I've since attributed that my being stuck in a ferry line for nearly two hours. Since then, whenever I expect that I'll be sitting in the car for awhile, I make sure I first open the door briefly to trigger the shut-down sequence.
Googling around, this seems to be more common in the States than elsewhere... possibly due to over-abundant smog checks and cheap help..
But, a dead battery four times out of five? I'd put this in the category of "Fool me once...". Just sayin...
Thank you - did not realize that if you shut the car down but stay in the car and do not open the door you drain the battery....
That begs a crazy question...if you run the remote starter....and just get stuck doing something and never end up driving the car from that start, will that also cause the battery to run down (as the door doesn't open at all...)?
Only time this happened to me so far is the state OBDII emissions testing process that one uses via self serve kiosk here. I followed the whole thing to the letter and disconnected it as instructed and the battery died a few days later...reconditioned the AGM via the CTEK smart charger over about 20 hours so no harm likely done...). Dealer and indy readers have not caused issues. Suspect the OP dealer tech is not waiting to shut it down or the particular car had an issue that is hopefully now fixed via the resets.
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I'm inferring from your post that you took your local dealer's attitude as a trigger to look elsewhere for your next service. I'm just saying the the OP could have considered a similar response.
From what I've been able to determine, the BMS has a pretty complicated set of triggers and responses. Presumably, starting the ignition should be able to reset those triggers to a default condition - something like a POST when firing up/rebooting a PC - so that the BMS would 'know' that the battery should not be discharging when the ignition is off. But that, it seems, would also clear trigger/response/condition history, which is apparently not desirable. Methinks the JLR engineers had created a Catch-22 situation, and are not sure how to get out of it, other than the no-recourse disconnect-the-battery solution. Sadly, that seems to be a common solution for most electrical problems, like Microsoft's three-fingered salute.
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