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Default How many 2015 F-Type R's were imported/sold in the US?

I have tried to Google this, but have not been able to come up with anything,.


More of a point of curiosity, but I sure do not see many of these on the road (which I really like), so was wondering how many of the 'one and done' rwd models exist, here in the US...


Anyone have data on this?
 
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There have been just over 7K sold in the U.S. for both 14-15 model years. I don't know the breakdown for each year, but for a long time toward the end of last year, a lot of dealers had a fair number of both model years on their lots. Sales numbers have increased steadily since introduction, but for the last half of 2014 those sales probably included both model years.
 
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Is this for the R specifically?
 
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Originally Posted by FtypeRRR
Is this for the R specifically?
Sorry, didn't read your post title carefully, just the text of your post. 7K is for all F-Types.
 
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ah, that makes sense. wanted to know about R's specifically.
 
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Originally Posted by FtypeRRR
ah, that makes sense. wanted to know about R's specifically.
Since this forum only represents hard-core car types, The R Coupe is more than likely over-represented here. Since it was only a 15MY, I'd guess fewer than 1000 have been sold.

I've never seen a breakdown of sales per F-Type variant, but from the dealers I've spoken with, the base models and the V6S both tend to sell well, and the higher cost V8s tend to linger longer on dealer lots. Again I have no good data, just going on impressions from folks I've talked with.
 
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It just not offered in the US for 2016 without AWD. RWD is still offered and who knows if it is coming back to the US.

It has been hard to get numbers from Jaguar for any model unless it what part of the marketing package for limited models such as the XKR-S and XKR-S GT.

I do not believe that there were 1,000 2015 Rs were sold. So what do we average, maybe 250 F-Types a month? What percentage are Rs, sure not more than 10 percent (I believe that is generous). For 12 months, you get to something like 300 cars. Unless you go to a car meet the chances are you are not seeing one .... maybe at the dealer ship when you go for service. I have not seen an R at my dealership either, just V6 Coupes.
 
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i picked up my car in february, and have not yet seen an R on the road. I do see some convertibles and the occasional V6 coup. i must see 100 911's each day...
 
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What are the last 5 digits of the VIN on your Coupe R? Mine is 13001 and is a U.S. car delivered in May 2014.
 
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What are the last 5 digits of the VIN on your Coupe R? Mine is 13001 and is a U.S. car delivered in May 2014.
I'm afraid that's probably not too helpful. Numbers can vary by model year and don't always start at zero.

For example my 2016 is in the first 100 built but the last 5 digits are 22859.
 
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I started a thread not too long ago looking for production numbers.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...umbers-136594/

This was the best we could find, but it just shows total sold, no breakdown between models or years.

Jaguar F-Type Sales Figures - GOOD CAR BAD CAR

Total in 2013: 2250
Total in 2014: 4112
Total in 2015: 723 (YTD)
 
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I'll give it a shot based on the below site (assuming the figures are decent--I've been looking for some time and this is the only data I've been able to scoop up).

Jaguar F-Type Sales Figures - GOOD CAR BAD CAR

F-Type Convertible sales in the U.S. from May 2013 - April 2014: 3128 units sold or about 261 Convertibles sold/mo);

F-Type Convertible & Coupe sales in the U.S. from May 2014 - Feb 2015: 3957 units sold or about 396 Convertibles & Coupes sold/mo;

Not surprisingly, once the Coupe went on the market in May 2014, total F-Type sales increased about 52%;

Now I have to reach a bit. IF Convertibles sold in the same proportion as previously (261 units/mo), that would mean approximately 135 Coupes sold/mo or 1350 Coupes sold in the last 10 months. I sense the actual sales ratio of Coupes/Cabs is higher. So, let's bump Coupe sales up to half of total F-Type sales (3957 in the last 10 months). That would approximate 200 Coupes sold/mo in the U.S. Let's stick with that figure (gotta throw my anchor somewhere)--200 Coupes/month or 2,000 Coupes sold since May 2014.

The question finally gets to how many of these 2,000 Coupes are R Coupes? Reaching one last time, I'd venture no more than 10% of total Coupe sales are R Coupes. That would put the number of 2015 RWD R Coupes at around 20 R Coupes sold/mo for a total of 400 R's on the road in the US since May 2014.

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the approach is logical and without disclosed data, is a fair approach. my only thought is that 20% of coup sales being R's, may be a bit high, given the significantly higher msrp, but ??

great work!
 
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
I'm afraid that's probably not too helpful. Numbers can vary by model year and don't always start at zero.

For example my 2016 is in the first 100 built but the last 5 digits are 22859.
In North America, the last 6 digits of the VIN are a sequential # that doesn't roll back to zero each year. Only the last 5 digits are required to be numbers. Other parts of the world use a different format for the last 8 positions of the VIN
 

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why would JLR not publish data on sales by model and sub-type?
 
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Originally Posted by Rockminster
why would JLR not publish data on sales by model and sub-type?
Not sure JLR doesn't make public their monthly unit sales...somewhere.
 
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Originally Posted by another_geek
In North America, the last 6 digits of the VIN are a sequential # that doesn't roll back to zero each year. Only the last 5 digits are required to be numbers. Other parts of the world use a different format for the last 8 positions of the VIN
This may be the case for Jaguar (im certainly no expert) but since the 10th digit signifies the model year, the last 5-6 digits certainly don't need to be a running count from year to year.

The new Jeep Renegade (for which I am a test engineer) starts as FPB1xxxx for the first customer vehicles built. However the first Challenger Hellcats for sale start with a VIN FH700xxx. Hellcats started from zero for U.S. Models, but Jeep Renegade didn't. It's generally not safe to assume anything from the VIN number unless you totally understand how it relates.

My guess is that it's a rolling count of something, but includes all vehicles built worldwide.
 
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Wikipedia agrees with you (for what it's worth). The last 6 digits (in North America) are a serial or production number, but there's no standard in how it's used.
Vehicle identification number - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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but there's no standard in how it's used.
Correct. There are general guidelines but each manufacturer has discretion on how they implement. I've worked for both Toyota and Nissan HQs in a past life and neither of them reset the serial #s each year to my recollection.

And as the wikipedia article states, North American VINs are different that other parts of the world.
 
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I think the number of Rs is higher than 10% or 20%. If you do a cars.com search for F-Types, there are 814 F-Types listed in the United States. 370 of those are Coupes. I'm guessing this is skewed since the weather is affecting convertible sales...I'm guessing coupes are 50+% Now, of the 370 coupes, 159 are flagged "R". So that's 43% Rs. But I do think Rs probably sit longer than V6 and V6S, so maybe bump this down to 35-40% of all coupes sold are Rs.

So, 2014 + 2015 = 4835.
4835 * 50% * 38% = 919

919 is your magic number. If you have an R, then you are 1 of 919.
 


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