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Old 08-17-2013 | 07:56 AM
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I'm expecting my car in about 5 weeks and I was just told by the Dealer in Brisbane Australia that Jaguar Australia require a 5,000 Km / 3,00 mile run-in period where the car is kept below 3,500 R.P.M. He has one of the first in the country and has been busy logging the required miles before allowing anyone else to drive the car. There is no mention of this in the pdf of the UK owners manual I have, but apparently it's in the back of the Aussie manual.

Q1. Anyone else come across this?

He tells me there no way Jag can tell if the car has been run in properly, i.e. not black box / log. He doesn't know why it's a requirement. (another E-type heritage point?)

I can run it in, reluctantly, but that leaves me with 2 concerns. If not running them in causes problems and you can't prove that you've run it in as per the manual how do you protect future resale? Who wins in a warranty dispute?

I guess I could look for a data logger that records RPM, but for 5,000k?

Q.2 Any ideas as to how that can be done?

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Old 08-17-2013 | 12:41 PM
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The US manual says nothing about this, and my dealer said no break in required, but I asked a Jag online rep about this:
Jaguar Customer Relations

During this Running-in period of 3,000 km
(2,000 miles) you should:
• Avoid frequent cold starts followed by
short-distance driving.
• Preferably take longer trips.
• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
• Avoid continuous operation at high engine
speed and abrupt stops.
• Do not participate in track days, sports
driving schools or similar.
In addition specifically up to 2,000 km (1,200
miles):
• Drive at varying engine and road speeds,
but do not exceed an engine speed of 4500
rpm (revolutions per minute) and a road
speed of 170 km/h (105 mph).

From 2,000 km (1,200 miles) to 3,000 km
(2,000 miles):
• Engine and road speeds can be increased
gradually.
• Engine speeds in excess of 5000rpm
 
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Old 08-17-2013 | 01:22 PM
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I asked my dealer the same thing. He just said avoid pushing it hard when cold, no other directions.
 
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Old 08-17-2013 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DJS
The US manual says nothing about this, and my dealer said no break in required, but I asked a Jag online rep about this:
Jaguar Customer Relations
It is in the US manual I think around page 134.
 
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Old 08-17-2013 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JgaXkr
It is in the US manual I think around page 134.
Thanks, I searched the UK PDF again in case I missed something, not there, at least not in the version available online. (Publication Part No. JJM 18 02 35 141) Interesting they'd spell it out in one guide, not in another. The requirements /recommendations? seem pretty specific.

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Old 08-18-2013 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JgaXkr
It is in the US manual I think around page 134.
Not in my US manual! Page 134 is the start of the maintenance section, and break-in is definitely missing. No rev number in my manual, but I assume they reprinted them.

Mine is also missing info on the emergency park release, should I need to tow the car.
Jaguar Customer Relations - emergency park release
 
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Old 08-18-2013 | 11:36 AM
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I just followed the owner information section on JaguarUSA.COM & it is there on page 134 in the maintenance section.

BREAKING-IN
Breaking-in period
The following guide-lines will be useful in
obtaining optimum performance from your
new Jaguar. Jaguars are built using
high-precision manufacturing methods but the
moving parts of the engine must still bed in
relative to one another. This process occurs
mainly in the first 2,000 miles (3,000 km) of
operation.
During this Breaking-in period of 2,000 miles
(3,000 km) you should:
• Avoid frequent cold starts followed by
short-distance driving.
• Preferably take longer trips.
• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
• Avoid continuous operation at high engine
speed and abrupt stops.
• Do not participate in track days, sports
driving schools or
 
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Old 08-19-2013 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DJS
The US manual says nothing about this, and my dealer said no break in required, but I asked a Jag online rep about this:
Jaguar Customer Relations

Apparently the Australian requirements are a bit more comprehensive, I can see a short trip to the shops (1/2 mile) "requiring" me to detour via the new airport expressway tunnel, approx 10 miles or via the mountain road,

such a pity

F-Type Running in Period
RUNNING-IN
Running-in period
The following guide-lines will be useful in
obtaining optimum performance from your
new Jaguar. Jaguars are built using
high-precision manufacturing methods but the
moving parts of the engine must still bed in
relative to one another. This process occurs
mainly in the first 3,000 km (2,000 miles) of
operation.
During this Running-in period of 3,000 km
(2,000 miles) you should:
• Avoid frequent cold starts followed by
short-distance driving.
• Preferably take longer trips.
• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
• Avoid continuous operation at high engine
speed and abrupt stops.
• Do not participate in track days, sports
driving schools or similar.
In addition specifically up to 2,000 km (1,200
miles):
• Drive at varying engine and road speeds,
but do not exceed an engine speed of 4500
rpm (revolutions per minute) and a road
speed of 170 km/h (105 mph).
From 2,000 km (1,200 miles) to 3,000 km
(2,000 miles):
• Engine and road speeds can be increased
gradually.
• Engine speeds in excess of 5000rpm
should only be used briefly e.g. when
overtaking.
At all times, not just during the Running-in
period:
• Do not exceed 4,000 rpm until the engine
has reached full operating temperature.
• Avoid labouring the engine by operating
the engine in too high a gear at low speeds.


Paul
 
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Old 08-20-2013 | 10:14 AM
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In 3 months - actually 3 miles - I violated all of those except the cold items...
 
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Old 08-28-2013 | 01:39 PM
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With the automatic gear box it is almost impossible to keep the revs down
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 07:14 AM
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Hi there - I just picked up a demo today with 400km on the clock. I wasn't told a thing about running it in by the dealer and read about it In the manual when I got home. Just wondering if you got clarification on your questions here? I'd be very interested to know.

Many thanks


Originally Posted by Paulfcdx
I'm expecting my car in about 5 weeks and I was just told by the Dealer in Brisbane Australia that Jaguar Australia require a 5,000 Km / 3,00 mile run-in period where the car is kept below 3,500 R.P.M. He has one of the first in the country and has been busy logging the required miles before allowing anyone else to drive the car. There is no mention of this in the pdf of the UK owners manual I have, but apparently it's in the back of the Aussie manual.

Q1. Anyone else come across this?

He tells me there no way Jag can tell if the car has been run in properly, i.e. not black box / log. He doesn't know why it's a requirement. (another E-type heritage point?)

I can run it in, reluctantly, but that leaves me with 2 concerns. If not running them in causes problems and you can't prove that you've run it in as per the manual how do you protect future resale? Who wins in a warranty dispute?

I guess I could look for a data logger that records RPM, but for 5,000k?

Q.2 Any ideas as to how that can be done?

Thanks
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 09:01 AM
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• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
No problem at all for me since all my driving is abnormal.


There probably not a single person on this forum that has complied with all of the run-in instructions.
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 12:18 PM
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It is set forth in the US manual. It is also in the index under Engine....then Breaking In. At least it is in the manual that came with my 2015 R.

Look at page 147. Break in period of 2000 miles.
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 12:46 PM
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It is most certainly in the owners manual...you guys should try reading it sometime,lol.

I've been trying to keep my rpms down and I don't believe I've wound it over 6k yet,I have just over 1500 miles on it now and I'm just varying speeds/rpm until I get to 2000 miles but as was stated...it's hard to keep the revs down when you're in dynamic mode,they come up pretty fast!
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 12:50 PM
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It's just common sense not to trash any new car by taking it to the extremes in the first few miles, so they put it in writing for reinforcement.
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DuhCar
It's just common sense not to trash any new car by taking it to the extremes in the first few miles, so they put it in writing for reinforcement.
Drat! That means I have to go on a 2000 mile road-trip before I do the pulley and tune. (Full throttle up to redline needed to tune on the dyno). Life is so hard!
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
Drat! That means I have to go on a 2000 mile road-trip before I do the pulley and tune. (Full throttle up to redline needed to tune on the dyno). Life is so hard!
"Good things come to those who wait."
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
Drat! That means I have to go on a 2000 mile road-trip before I do the pulley and tune. (Full throttle up to redline needed to tune on the dyno). Life is so hard!
You might want to get a common order # first...
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 03:08 PM
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looks like its suggested not mandated- hence the company doesn't have recourse if you don't follow those guidelines- I lease therefore my break-in ends when I leave the dealers driveway
 
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Old 01-12-2015 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Joz132
You might want to get a common order # first...
I do!!!!!
I have yet to find any other 6 speed buyers with a "common order #" . My dealer says that JLR will not begin producing those cars until April and expects to be able to enter the order within the next 2-3 weeks. We'll see.
 

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