Jaguar 5,000 Kilometer / 3,000 Mile Run-In required?
#1
Jaguar 5,000 Kilometer / 3,000 Mile Run-In required?
I'm expecting my car in about 5 weeks and I was just told by the Dealer in Brisbane Australia that Jaguar Australia require a 5,000 Km / 3,00 mile run-in period where the car is kept below 3,500 R.P.M. He has one of the first in the country and has been busy logging the required miles before allowing anyone else to drive the car. There is no mention of this in the pdf of the UK owners manual I have, but apparently it's in the back of the Aussie manual.
Q1. Anyone else come across this?
He tells me there no way Jag can tell if the car has been run in properly, i.e. not black box / log. He doesn't know why it's a requirement. (another E-type heritage point?)
I can run it in, reluctantly, but that leaves me with 2 concerns. If not running them in causes problems and you can't prove that you've run it in as per the manual how do you protect future resale? Who wins in a warranty dispute?
I guess I could look for a data logger that records RPM, but for 5,000k?
Q.2 Any ideas as to how that can be done?
Thanks
Q1. Anyone else come across this?
He tells me there no way Jag can tell if the car has been run in properly, i.e. not black box / log. He doesn't know why it's a requirement. (another E-type heritage point?)
I can run it in, reluctantly, but that leaves me with 2 concerns. If not running them in causes problems and you can't prove that you've run it in as per the manual how do you protect future resale? Who wins in a warranty dispute?
I guess I could look for a data logger that records RPM, but for 5,000k?
Q.2 Any ideas as to how that can be done?
Thanks
#2
The US manual says nothing about this, and my dealer said no break in required, but I asked a Jag online rep about this:
Jaguar Customer Relations
Jaguar Customer Relations
During this Running-in period of 3,000 km
(2,000 miles) you should:
• Avoid frequent cold starts followed by
short-distance driving.
• Preferably take longer trips.
• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
• Avoid continuous operation at high engine
speed and abrupt stops.
• Do not participate in track days, sports
driving schools or similar.
In addition specifically up to 2,000 km (1,200
miles):
• Drive at varying engine and road speeds,
but do not exceed an engine speed of 4500
rpm (revolutions per minute) and a road
speed of 170 km/h (105 mph).
From 2,000 km (1,200 miles) to 3,000 km
(2,000 miles):
• Engine and road speeds can be increased
gradually.
• Engine speeds in excess of 5000rpm
(2,000 miles) you should:
• Avoid frequent cold starts followed by
short-distance driving.
• Preferably take longer trips.
• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
• Avoid continuous operation at high engine
speed and abrupt stops.
• Do not participate in track days, sports
driving schools or similar.
In addition specifically up to 2,000 km (1,200
miles):
• Drive at varying engine and road speeds,
but do not exceed an engine speed of 4500
rpm (revolutions per minute) and a road
speed of 170 km/h (105 mph).
From 2,000 km (1,200 miles) to 3,000 km
(2,000 miles):
• Engine and road speeds can be increased
gradually.
• Engine speeds in excess of 5000rpm
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Paulfcdx (08-17-2013)
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The US manual says nothing about this, and my dealer said no break in required, but I asked a Jag online rep about this:
Jaguar Customer Relations
Jaguar Customer Relations
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Paulfcdx (08-17-2013)
#5
Thanks, I searched the UK PDF again in case I missed something, not there, at least not in the version available online. (Publication Part No. JJM 18 02 35 141) Interesting they'd spell it out in one guide, not in another. The requirements /recommendations? seem pretty specific.
PaulF
PaulF
#6
Not in my US manual! Page 134 is the start of the maintenance section, and break-in is definitely missing. No rev number in my manual, but I assume they reprinted them.
Mine is also missing info on the emergency park release, should I need to tow the car.
Jaguar Customer Relations - emergency park release
Mine is also missing info on the emergency park release, should I need to tow the car.
Jaguar Customer Relations - emergency park release
#7
I just followed the owner information section on JaguarUSA.COM & it is there on page 134 in the maintenance section.
BREAKING-IN
Breaking-in period
The following guide-lines will be useful in
obtaining optimum performance from your
new Jaguar. Jaguars are built using
high-precision manufacturing methods but the
moving parts of the engine must still bed in
relative to one another. This process occurs
mainly in the first 2,000 miles (3,000 km) of
operation.
During this Breaking-in period of 2,000 miles
(3,000 km) you should:
• Avoid frequent cold starts followed by
short-distance driving.
• Preferably take longer trips.
• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
• Avoid continuous operation at high engine
speed and abrupt stops.
• Do not participate in track days, sports
driving schools or
BREAKING-IN
Breaking-in period
The following guide-lines will be useful in
obtaining optimum performance from your
new Jaguar. Jaguars are built using
high-precision manufacturing methods but the
moving parts of the engine must still bed in
relative to one another. This process occurs
mainly in the first 2,000 miles (3,000 km) of
operation.
During this Breaking-in period of 2,000 miles
(3,000 km) you should:
• Avoid frequent cold starts followed by
short-distance driving.
• Preferably take longer trips.
• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
• Avoid continuous operation at high engine
speed and abrupt stops.
• Do not participate in track days, sports
driving schools or
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#8
The US manual says nothing about this, and my dealer said no break in required, but I asked a Jag online rep about this:
Jaguar Customer Relations
Jaguar Customer Relations
Apparently the Australian requirements are a bit more comprehensive, I can see a short trip to the shops (1/2 mile) "requiring" me to detour via the new airport expressway tunnel, approx 10 miles or via the mountain road,
such a pity
F-Type Running in Period
RUNNING-IN
Running-in period
The following guide-lines will be useful in
obtaining optimum performance from your
new Jaguar. Jaguars are built using
high-precision manufacturing methods but the
moving parts of the engine must still bed in
relative to one another. This process occurs
mainly in the first 3,000 km (2,000 miles) of
operation.
During this Running-in period of 3,000 km
(2,000 miles) you should:
• Avoid frequent cold starts followed by
short-distance driving.
• Preferably take longer trips.
• Do not use full throttle during starts and
normal driving.
• Avoid continuous operation at high engine
speed and abrupt stops.
• Do not participate in track days, sports
driving schools or similar.
In addition specifically up to 2,000 km (1,200
miles):
• Drive at varying engine and road speeds,
but do not exceed an engine speed of 4500
rpm (revolutions per minute) and a road
speed of 170 km/h (105 mph).
From 2,000 km (1,200 miles) to 3,000 km
(2,000 miles):
• Engine and road speeds can be increased
gradually.
• Engine speeds in excess of 5000rpm
should only be used briefly e.g. when
overtaking.
At all times, not just during the Running-in
period:
• Do not exceed 4,000 rpm until the engine
has reached full operating temperature.
• Avoid labouring the engine by operating
the engine in too high a gear at low speeds.
Paul
#11
Hi there - I just picked up a demo today with 400km on the clock. I wasn't told a thing about running it in by the dealer and read about it In the manual when I got home. Just wondering if you got clarification on your questions here? I'd be very interested to know.
Many thanks
Many thanks
I'm expecting my car in about 5 weeks and I was just told by the Dealer in Brisbane Australia that Jaguar Australia require a 5,000 Km / 3,00 mile run-in period where the car is kept below 3,500 R.P.M. He has one of the first in the country and has been busy logging the required miles before allowing anyone else to drive the car. There is no mention of this in the pdf of the UK owners manual I have, but apparently it's in the back of the Aussie manual.
Q1. Anyone else come across this?
He tells me there no way Jag can tell if the car has been run in properly, i.e. not black box / log. He doesn't know why it's a requirement. (another E-type heritage point?)
I can run it in, reluctantly, but that leaves me with 2 concerns. If not running them in causes problems and you can't prove that you've run it in as per the manual how do you protect future resale? Who wins in a warranty dispute?
I guess I could look for a data logger that records RPM, but for 5,000k?
Q.2 Any ideas as to how that can be done?
Thanks
Q1. Anyone else come across this?
He tells me there no way Jag can tell if the car has been run in properly, i.e. not black box / log. He doesn't know why it's a requirement. (another E-type heritage point?)
I can run it in, reluctantly, but that leaves me with 2 concerns. If not running them in causes problems and you can't prove that you've run it in as per the manual how do you protect future resale? Who wins in a warranty dispute?
I guess I could look for a data logger that records RPM, but for 5,000k?
Q.2 Any ideas as to how that can be done?
Thanks
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#14
It is most certainly in the owners manual...you guys should try reading it sometime,lol.
I've been trying to keep my rpms down and I don't believe I've wound it over 6k yet,I have just over 1500 miles on it now and I'm just varying speeds/rpm until I get to 2000 miles but as was stated...it's hard to keep the revs down when you're in dynamic mode,they come up pretty fast!
I've been trying to keep my rpms down and I don't believe I've wound it over 6k yet,I have just over 1500 miles on it now and I'm just varying speeds/rpm until I get to 2000 miles but as was stated...it's hard to keep the revs down when you're in dynamic mode,they come up pretty fast!
#16
Drat! That means I have to go on a 2000 mile road-trip before I do the pulley and tune. (Full throttle up to redline needed to tune on the dyno). Life is so hard!
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I do!!!!!
I have yet to find any other 6 speed buyers with a "common order #" . My dealer says that JLR will not begin producing those cars until April and expects to be able to enter the order within the next 2-3 weeks. We'll see.
I have yet to find any other 6 speed buyers with a "common order #" . My dealer says that JLR will not begin producing those cars until April and expects to be able to enter the order within the next 2-3 weeks. We'll see.
Last edited by Unhingd; 01-12-2015 at 03:16 PM.