I've been considering purchasing an almost new SVR F Type loaded. With the new changes on the 2021 R, digital dash and front end look, and mostly by inheriting the SVR engine tune, suspension and other SVR exclusive items the SVR is being devalued as an exclusion model. The SVR no longer is exclusive. IMO Jaguar also negatively impacted the exclusiveness of the F Type when they introduced the 4 banger and lowered the price range. Can you imagine Ferrari coming out with a 4 banger 488 what it would do for the brand. On my short list of sports cars is 2018-20 F Type SVR, 2018-19 MB AMG GT-C, C8 Corvette Z06 (will be a long wait), 2014-15 911 turbo S, all convertibles. People always comment on the steep depreciation of the Jaguar brand. Jaguar, IMO, is responsible for the steep depreciation and for pushing the frugal buyer away from the brand. This marketing tactic cannibalizes the brand and has me thinking twice before purchasing another Jaguar. Other manufactures do the same, but not to the degree Jaguar does it.

 

I was thinking the SVR’s values would actually depreciate less since they no longer are being made and thus making them more exclusive. 20 years from now when we are all forced to drive some form of high efficiency vehicles, I would think that special variants will be prized over the standard models.

 

The SVR as a collector’s garage queen, you are correct. As a weekend play toy, the driving experience will determine demand. Most of us will be dead by the time any of these cars (other than maybe the P7) appreciate as collector’s cars. Even then , millennials won’t give two rats’ a.... about IC cars.

 

Funny thing to me is that currently and for the past 10 years the performance car market is completely at odds with what the politicians and media say about transportation.
The performance cars of today are incredible and even some of the millennials have been bitten by the hot rod bug albeit in much lower percentages, so I am hopeful that these type of cars will continue to inspire and infatuate for several more generations 🤞

 

Now that Gruesome Newsom in California has signed into law the fact that gasoline powered cars will not be allowed on the roads in California after 2035 and no carbon emissions after 2025, I have decided to drive my Pantera at every occasion I can. Though I doubt I'll be alive let alone able to push a hard clutch by 2035, I might still be doing it by 2025. If it's just a 3000lb. paperweight, what's the point of owning any supercar or sports car?

 

Move! "We are all just prisoners here of our own device"

 

To clarify, the California emissions law requires all new vehicles sold from 2035 onwards to be zero emissions. That has nothing to do with existing IC vehicles.

 

+1. They will still allow the sale of used IC vehicles after that date.

 

I just couldn't see living in California with all those new extra rules and taxes... That Governors a jerk. Good luck out there. I'll take my no emissions wooded twisty curves in WI any day over that place.

 

My point is, if the SVR tune, suspension and other unique high performance features were to stay exclusive to the SVR and not rolled into the new 2021 "R" the SVR would be more sought after and valuable. Now that the SVR performance features are in the less expensive 2021 "R" it depreciates the SVR of prior years that were sold at a premium for being exclusive high performance F Types--not so exclusive anymore.

 

Ah, but the 2021 R is much quieter than the earlier SVRs, so that makes the SVRs more desirable.

 

+1 and I’ll bet a 2020 SVR with similar miles will fetch a higher price than a 2021 R 3 years from now.
Time will tell.

 

Now that I have 3K miles on the clock, my 2021 R is anything but quiet.

 

So the rumours about newer models being emasculated are untrue? Good news if so.

 

I don't think this is accurate. Yes, millennials like different cars than boomers. However, there is undeniably a car scene. The fact that fewer own luxury sports cars is mostly about lack of means - bad economy, crushing student debt, out of control real estate costs and rents is not conductive to buying a non-beater set of wheels. Just look at millennial celebrities and tech millionaires - they buy hyper cars just like every generation before them, and yes, for now these hyper cars are IC.

 

Absolutely, In dynamic when I go through the gears it's every bit as pronounced with plenty of "pops and crackles". Admittedly, early on I was a bit concerned and my wife commented on the difference as well. However, after a few thousand miles, on acceleration it's the F Type exhaust notes we've all come to enjoy.

 

I personally think the SVR F type is much better looking than the facelift 2021 F type R and it has the better sounding titanium exhaust. The appearance of the original headlights to me is a more classic jaguar sports car look . The new headlights look like every other car and are less distinctive; its change for the sake of change just like the rear tail lights. I know resale wise a 2020 F type R won’t be as good as the 2021 F type R facelift but to me the original headlights are still better looking as is the smaller grill . So getting back to your original post while performance wise the 2021 has the same horsepower as the SVR , the SVR with the rear spoiler and original bonnet/headlights is better looking. Lastly the analog tachometer and speedometer is sportier looking then a screen and easier to read in direct sunlight in the convertible. For all the reasons in my opinion I would buy a left over 2020 SVR over a 2021 F type R. I have a 2020 F type R convertible (so I am biased) , the same way the original E type is more desirable then the 2nd and 3rd generation cars I believe so will the original SVR be over the facelift R.

 

It makes sense to me that Jag would want the facelift R to be faster, more powerful, and handle better. After all, the R is a 6 year old format now, and sub 4 seconds for the performance cars is where you want to be pitching.

The R and the SVR have different appeal, aesthetics wise. I wouldnt say that the SVR is as pretty as the R by a long shot, but then it is more brutal looking which is appealing in a different way. Personally (and this is only opinion) I prefer the shape of the R against the SVR. But I think that the new, more aggressive front end will lend itself more to the extra bits on the SVR and if they end up making a SVR in the new shape it should look great.

 

With 600+hp.

 

yum, I could be tempted by that. But not at $350K which is what they cost over here.