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Old 11-20-2018, 09:37 AM
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Default Jaguar F-Type Could Yield A Next-Gen All-Electric Version

Jaguar has officially gotten into the electric-vehicle market with the launch of the new I-Pace. You can bet your leaping cat there’ll be more to follow, and according to the latest intel coming in from the UK, that could include the replacement for the current F-Type.


According to Autocar (whose reports need often be taken with a grain of salt or two), the British automaker is considering producing an all-electric version of the next-generation F-Type. But it could still be a ways off.

Though Jaguar’s sports car is already six years old, its replacement isn’t expected to come for another couple of years from now. The company’s chief designer Ian Callum told Autocar that “being a specialist car, it will have a longer life than the mainstream models,” but that “there will be a future for the F-Type.”

Just what that future will look like is the subject of some speculation. Last month we brought you a report from another British publication that Jaguar Land Rover is working out a deal with BMW to supply the replacement for its celebrated but aging 5.0-liter supercharged V8, with the German automaker’s 4.4-liter twin-turbo V8 tipped to find its way into the next F-Type before being implemented in other JLR models, including the replacements Jaguar XJ, Range Rover, and Range Rover Sport.

It wouldn’t be the first time, after all: the second-generation (circa 1994-2002) Range Rover offered a BMW-sourced six-cylinder diesel, and the third-gen model featured just such a 4.4-liter V8 sourced from BMW until 2006 when the Jaguar AJ-V8 was substituted.

It’s likely that the next F-Type would continue offering JLR’s Ingenium four-cylinder engines, with the BMW V8 powering the top version. But adding an all-electric variant could give Jaguar a rival to the forthcoming Tesla Roadster, much as the I-Pace has gone after the Model X.

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Callum is always quoteable. Longer life than the mainstream models like the XJ which is going on 10 years. So maybe 12, 13 for the F. Silly.
 
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:22 AM
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Callum is always quoteable. Longer life than the mainstream models like the XJ which is going on 10 years. So maybe 12, 13 for the F. Silly.
Why not? The 911 has been around for over 50 years.
 
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Old 11-20-2018, 11:59 AM
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Absolutely, and the Impala has been around for 60 years. But your point is well taken. What if Jaguar had continued evolving the XK-120/140/150 instead of introducing the E. I think The E was a better idea. The 911 is carrying a lot of baggage (so to speak) with its age. I used to get a chuckle every time Porsche introduced a new 911 and would say "We finally got the handling right."

To give credit where credit is due, the history of the 911 is quite something. Porsche has done an outstanding job of evolving the car over that 50 years. I'm not sure entirely for the better, but it has moved with the times. This is a real challenge for a smaller manufacturer like JLR. How to stay current when the rest of the industry is moving to 7 year cycles with 3-4 year refreshes. Porsche has the smaller sports cars to stay current and is not limited to the 911.

I agree with Callum, that the market for sports cars isn't a large one, and it is a real challenge to amortize the development costs over seven year when you are only selling 9,000 cars a year. It suggests the F should evolve like the 911 rather than go electric like the article suggests.
 

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I'm not necessarily anti an electric sportscar. I figure that my f type is a long term car for me so I'd expect to have it another 3 or 4 years, and by then electric will be much more acceptable. While I would miss the engine note, what is currently the killer for me is the absence of involvement through transmission, what I am hoping for is for the regeneration to transmission changes by paddle shifters so that a driver can get more out of twisty roads, eg dropping the car down a few notches approaching a corner etc. The concept of a single gear all being run through the accelerator pedal reminds me more of a ride on mower than a sports car, but then I suppose similar things were probably said as the clutches were being phased out.
 
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Why not? The 911 has been around for over 50 years.
the 911 has had it’s few changes in shape etc. the F-type and XJ have had the exact same body.
 
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the 911 has had it’s few changes in shape etc. the F-type and XJ have had the exact same body.
When you have the perfect body shape, how can it be improved? The 911 is still an ugly jelly mould, even after 50 years.
 
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the 911 has had it’s few changes in shape etc. the F-type and XJ have had the exact same body.
when I went on the jaguar assembly line tour we were told that each individual aluminium panel molds used in the presses are made in Germany and cost about 4 million (UK pound) EACH. therefore the panels/body are the least likely part to be modified especially in a low volume vehicle. It’s much cheaper to alter the plastic bits, bumper etc.

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I recently bought a BMW tourer for shopping and for the kids to get about [ 18 / 21 /25] when they are around. Didn't know it but the thing has a 3 cylinder 1.5L engine... ..since 2012 !
So -maybe- in 2020 JLR will come with a 3-cylinder for the Evoque EIGHT YEARS LATER... Why don't they get the BMW 3 cylinder now ? Anyway, these are made in China....
 
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Didn't know it but the thing has a 3 cylinder 1.5L engine... ..since 2012 !..
No such beast available in the US. Smallest currently available engine in the 2 series is the 230i 2L 4-banger. Given the price points of BMWs here, I don't think the market would find a 1.5L 3-banger to be acceptable.
 
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They don't even sell a 230i here, due to the taxation based on CO2...

Only the cheapest has a 3-pot, the other two 4-pot. The 216 can be tuned to 180hp,
so you save € 7000 by investing € 295...

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Originally Posted by Dan_NL
They don't even sell a 230i here, due to the taxation based on CO2...

Only the cheapest has a 3-pot, the other two 4-pot. The 216 can be tuned to 180hp,
so you save € 7000 by investing € 295...

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That body style isn't even offered here. The 2 series only comes in a 2 door coupe or vert:




 
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Probably BMW has its reasons not to offer the active Tourer or the 7 seater version as they either can not compete on price with simular products,
as the cars are produced in the EU [ 3-pot engine in China ] and transport and labour makes it relatively expensive. Or it had to do with the
branding : if BMW thinks they have a larger profit by selling other models an leaving the image of RWD sportive cars alive, they also would
not put a FWD small MPV next to them in the showroom.

In the Netherlands they sold very well in 2015. No its 11% of total sales here.
 
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Barf. Sorry, but the growl is 80% of the car's appeal.
 
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