Jaguar f type v6 Turbo swap
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Yes and no. All indications point to the block being able to hold higher boost than what TVS 1320 can provide, assuming cooling issues are addressed.
That assumption is a gotcha. There is no practical way to solve these. All tunes out there heat soak like crazy and are 1-2 pull wonders. Stock is the most you can sustain over prolonged WOT and even that starts going into thermal protection at above 100F ambient.
That assumption is a gotcha. There is no practical way to solve these. All tunes out there heat soak like crazy and are 1-2 pull wonders. Stock is the most you can sustain over prolonged WOT and even that starts going into thermal protection at above 100F ambient.
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Yes and no. All indications point to the block being able to hold higher boost than what TVS 1320 can provide, assuming cooling issues are addressed.
That assumption is a gotcha. There is no practical way to solve these. All tunes out there heat soak like crazy and are 1-2 pull wonders. Stock is the most you can sustain over prolonged WOT and even that starts going into thermal protection at above 100F ambient.
That assumption is a gotcha. There is no practical way to solve these. All tunes out there heat soak like crazy and are 1-2 pull wonders. Stock is the most you can sustain over prolonged WOT and even that starts going into thermal protection at above 100F ambient.
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The majority of F-Type owners are not serious modders. They buy and drive their cars and don't change too much one them. With that, instead of debating on this forum; go out, start modding your car and come back with the results.
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Debating, generally, should be informative.
The problem comes when people don’t address the question posed by the post, but rather make remarks about the post.
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SinF (06-07-2021)
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My point is, you aren't going to have a discussion like that on a forum where those type of people don't frequent. It sounds like you have already met and/or talked to Ftype17. If that is the case, whatever means you have already communicated with him is going to be your best source for information.
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DPelletier (06-10-2021)
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If by "upgraded water pump" you mean intercooler pump (something like this: https://www.eurotoysltd.com/product/...ump-kit-combo/), then it was shown to be only partially effective (i.e. it helps with heat soak but not with lowering post-SC inlet temperature). As detonation is largely a function of inlet temps, this mod alone won't allow you to safely get to a higher boost levels. It will postpone onset of ECU pulling timing as part of thermal protection and will allow you to race in hotter ambient temperatures.
Basically, my message is as follows: THERMAL issue is what keeping F-type from realizing its full potential, you can't get reliable and sustained power until you address that. Otherwise anything else you do is going to be 1-pull setup. Just like drag racers that pack ice on the engine before a pull - you will be forever waiting for things to cool down while unmodified Miatas lap around you.
Basically, my message is as follows: THERMAL issue is what keeping F-type from realizing its full potential, you can't get reliable and sustained power until you address that. Otherwise anything else you do is going to be 1-pull setup. Just like drag racers that pack ice on the engine before a pull - you will be forever waiting for things to cool down while unmodified Miatas lap around you.
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If by "upgraded water pump" you mean intercooler pump (something like this: https://www.eurotoysltd.com/product/...ump-kit-combo/), then it was shown to be only partially effective (i.e. it helps with heat soak but not with lowering post-SC inlet temperature). As detonation is largely a function of inlet temps, this mod alone won't allow you to safely get to a higher boost levels. It will postpone onset of ECU pulling timing as part of thermal protection and will allow you to race in hotter ambient temperatures.
Basically, my message is as follows: THERMAL issue is what keeping F-type from realizing its full potential, you can't get reliable and sustained power until you address that. Otherwise anything else you do is going to be 1-pull setup. Just like drag racers that pack ice on the engine before a pull - you will be forever waiting for things to cool down while unmodified Miatas lap around you.
Basically, my message is as follows: THERMAL issue is what keeping F-type from realizing its full potential, you can't get reliable and sustained power until you address that. Otherwise anything else you do is going to be 1-pull setup. Just like drag racers that pack ice on the engine before a pull - you will be forever waiting for things to cool down while unmodified Miatas lap around you.
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The injectors are literally spraying right in the air path as you can see...Keeps it nice and cool!
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I've got a bit of a one track mind, I keep thinking of how turbocharging the car might ruin the engine note. So then I thought maybe if it was possible to put in the engine out of a Guilia QV which is very grunty and meant to have a great note, so I listened to this clip on the engine note and really I dont think it is a patch on the Jag's anyway
Of course I dont even know whether you can swap engines these days with all of the electronics and sensors etc.
Of course I dont even know whether you can swap engines these days with all of the electronics and sensors etc.
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I've got a bit of a one track mind, I keep thinking of how turbocharging the car might ruin the engine note. So then I thought maybe if it was possible to put in the engine out of a Guilia QV which is very grunty and meant to have a great note, so I listened to this clip on the engine note and really I dont think it is a patch on the Jag's anyway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWGXO8CJEV0
Of course I dont even know whether you can swap engines these days with all of the electronics and sensors etc.
Of course I dont even know whether you can swap engines these days with all of the electronics and sensors etc.
That said, someone I work with has a new DBS Superleggera, which is Turboed , and it sounds sweet!
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Just a note if you plan to improve the IC itself. Paramount makes them for everyone else and you are paying a premium to purchase from Eurotoys.
Here is the upgraded IC;
Paramount Upgraded IC
I did not know this until I received my IC from Eurotoys and saw the Paramount sticker on the IC!!
So that mistake cost me several hundred dollars!
XJR IC Upgrade
No matter where you get it it's a quality bit of work and I have had zero problems in the roughly 2 years I have had it. Same with the upgraded 010 Bosch IC pump.
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Here is the upgraded IC;
Paramount Upgraded IC
I did not know this until I received my IC from Eurotoys and saw the Paramount sticker on the IC!!
So that mistake cost me several hundred dollars!
XJR IC Upgrade
No matter where you get it it's a quality bit of work and I have had zero problems in the roughly 2 years I have had it. Same with the upgraded 010 Bosch IC pump.
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Just a note if you plan to improve the IC itself. Paramount makes them for everyone else and you are paying a premium to purchase from Eurotoys.
Here is the upgraded IC;
Paramount Upgraded IC
I did not know this until I received my IC from Eurotoys and saw the Paramount sticker on the IC!!
So that mistake cost me several hundred dollars!
XJR IC Upgrade
No matter where you get it it's a quality bit of work and I have had zero problems in the roughly 2 years I have had it. Same with the upgraded 010 Bosch IC pump.
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.
Here is the upgraded IC;
Paramount Upgraded IC
I did not know this until I received my IC from Eurotoys and saw the Paramount sticker on the IC!!
So that mistake cost me several hundred dollars!
XJR IC Upgrade
No matter where you get it it's a quality bit of work and I have had zero problems in the roughly 2 years I have had it. Same with the upgraded 010 Bosch IC pump.
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A supercharger is great for low-end torque but loses efficiency at higher RPMs whereas a turbo is basically the other way around. What would be incredible to see is a turbocharger ADD-ON as opposed to a replacement. Most of the plumbing's already there, right?
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Nowhere to run the manifold(s) let alone the turbo(s).
Not even enough room for after-market long tube headers, VAP and others have tried to no avail.
Obviously a hot V turbo set up while retaining the SC is impossible not to mention the basic engine intake/exhaust configuration being the wrong way around for that.