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Old 02-28-2017 | 09:56 PM
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I'd concur the SVR is underrated. Having come from AMGs (which are often underrated), this car feels much stronger than 575. I'll find an AWD dyno here in the bay area and see if we can prove it out.
 
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Old 03-02-2017 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DPelletier
- 119.5 mph trap speed = 506hp (crank)
- 122 - 123 mph = 538 - 552hp
- 126 mph = 593 - 597hp
So you can get almost 100 hp just with software?
Wow!
 

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Old 03-02-2017 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Misujerr
So you can get almost 100 hp just with software?
Wow!
Yep.


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Old 03-02-2017 | 11:07 AM
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^ What he said. These cars are great, I probably have a dozen 10 second passes on mine by now and the car just keeps going and going...
 
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Old 03-03-2017 | 03:34 PM
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A tuning shop down in Arizona tested a stock V8S and found it to be underrated, they were able to get 517HP at the flywheel.

https://www.dynocomp.com/blog/2014/0...r-f-type-v8-s/
 
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Old 03-04-2017 | 12:18 PM
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Isn't 23% a little aggressive for the conversion factor? I thought it was usually 15-20%?
 
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Old 03-04-2017 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Misujerr
Isn't 23% a little aggressive for the conversion factor? I thought it was usually 15-20%?
+1. ~15% for RWD and 18-20% forAWD.
 
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Old 03-04-2017 | 04:53 PM
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15% is a general rule of thumb for a chain drive bike which is quite a bit more efficient conversion than a shaft drive bike.

23% sounds reasonable to me for a shaft drive bike but I am not sure about the difference in efficiency between a bike shaft drive and a car shaft drive.
 

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Old 03-04-2017 | 05:03 PM
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This is why I didn't want to use dyno sheets for the comparisons, every dyno reads different, and guessing the crank HP or torque from a chassis dyno result is far from accurate.

The trap speeds on the 1/4 mile are more indicative of power levels, the ET less so.
 
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Old 03-06-2017 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cambo
This is why I didn't want to use dyno sheets for the comparisons, every dyno reads different, and guessing the crank HP or torque from a chassis dyno result is far from accurate.

The trap speeds on the 1/4 mile are more indicative of power levels, the ET less so.
Agreed; unless we start pulling engines, it's more than a little grey....

Motor Trend got 447 RWHP on a 2014 V8S dyno......


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Old 03-07-2017 | 07:51 AM
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hmmmm , that seems very high, my 2014 V8S on a dynojet came in at 406whp and 512whp after the tune ...

and Cambo thanks for immortalizing my quote ....
 
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Old 03-07-2017 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwabe
hmmmm , that seems very high, my 2014 V8S on a dynojet came in at 406whp and 512whp after the tune ...

and Cambo thanks for immortalizing my quote ....
Yep; like Cambo said; every dyno is different.....

That said, using Cambo's examples (there have been faster times such as the MT test I referenced) of a trap speed of 119.5 and the actual weight of my car, the online calculators give us a RWHP of 463 and a crank hp of 503....which coincidentally is what the car is rated at 510PS = 503hp.

I'd say your dyno was way low.


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Old 03-09-2017 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Cambo
This is why I didn't want to use dyno sheets for the comparisons, every dyno reads different, and guessing the crank HP or torque from a chassis dyno result is far from accurate.

The trap speeds on the 1/4 mile are more indicative of power levels, the ET less so.
How about 1/2 mile trap speeds? Here are the results of the Shift S3ctor event in February. My car was #164
https://api.rss3t.com/reports/stats/6

Interesting speeds:

#172 - 2014 Jaguar F-Type V8S (495HP): 144.880 MPH
#122 - 2016 Jaguar F-Type R ( 147.155 mph )
#123 - 2015 Jaguar F-Type R ( 146.962 mph )
#124 - 2015 Jaguar F-Type R ( 145.536 mph )
#164 - 2016 Jaguar F-Type R ( 148.514 mph ) <-- MINE
#175 - 2017 Jaguar F-Type SVR ( 148.514 mph )


All these Jaguars were 100% stock as far as I know. Most other cars in the list were heavily modified.
 
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Old 07-09-2020 | 09:24 AM
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Has this been resolved? I'm still wondering if the SVR is underrated. Anyone dyno'ed a stock SVR?
 
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Old 07-09-2020 | 07:12 PM
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Peak #'s don't tell the whole story. Can't make a judgement based on those differences. Dyno is really only useful when comparing upgrades on the same car. Want to really know the performance, take it to the track.
 

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