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Actually, spoken like a software engineer. I've seen the sausage being made ;^)
Originally Posted by Lani Kai
Maybe, but my point still stands
The Ghost of Lucas Past. My passenger door keyless entry just started misbehaving. I have to hold the fob right next to the panel where the antenna is. Rear and driver's door are fine. I expect the offending part is made in Germany.
While I do think an electric car as a DD is perfectly reasonable, I don't think that will be happening to me for a while. Sorry Jaguar, but my next car will probably not be within the brand.
As one of the younger people on this forum, I'm glad I was able to get my 6MT F-Type before manuals, and later ICE cars, truly become extinct.
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I'm in the"it is what it is" group. As more are made all the other problems will disappear. If performance is the goal we're going to get it. I'm not a big Tesla fan on esthetics if nothing else but I have been along for a ride in luducris mode and it is amazing. When cars like Audi's and Porsche's and Lucid are coming the next step is around the corner. I would seriously look at a mild hybrid or hybrid right now. A compromise on the way to the future.
I'm in the"it is what it is" group. As more are made all the other problems will disappear. If performance is the goal we're going to get it. I'm not a big Tesla fan on esthetics if nothing else but I have been along for a ride in luducris mode and it is amazing. When cars like Audi's and Porsche's and Lucid are coming the next step is around the corner. I would seriously look at a mild hybrid or hybrid right now. A compromise on the way to the future.
I have similar feelings, at least in some respects. I deliberately chose a 6MT and special-ordered it. I knew the auto would do a better job of shifting for me, and would be faster and more responsive. The ZF8 is really good. I wanted the experience of the manual transmission. If I were racing, I'd go for whatever gave faster lap times and I'm sure the ZF8 would to that. If I were racing, I would choose other than the F-Type anyway. It's heavy, and really a GT; not a Sports car and certainly not a race car.
I did drive the I-Pace and actually liked the way it drove, to a point. That point was more elevated than I expected, and likely more elevated than the salesman was comfortable with. He wanted me to try the launch mode but I wanted to see how it cornered, especially in side to side transition. I like driving, and could enjoy driving an electric. I'd miss the sound and fury, but performance is performance.
It's always what Product Management/Marketing demands of SW engineers. If it were up to SW engineers nothing would ever get released because they weren't "done" yet.
Wow, I've been waiting on a factory order 2021 F-Type to finally get confirmed in their system, as there were severe production delays with Covid. Should I be having second thoughts about this now and instead wait for the ultra-cool futuristic electric F-Type that will probably get released in a few years? I've never bought a new car before.. the F-Type was going to be it, and I had planned on having it for a good few years (6+). Now I can't help but wonder if I'd be getting the car in it's retirement year(?) This almost happened with the Alfa Romeo 4C, which ended up disappearing from the market before I could make a purchasing decision. Though I still feel like I must have the combustion F-Type regardless.
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I can't help but wonder if I'd be getting the car in its retirement year(?)
The benefit of getting a car in its "retirement year" is that all the issues should have been sorted out so you should have years (decades?) of trouble free motoring! Being an early adopter of an all-electric F-Type (assuming they're going to make one) could be fraught with teething problems ....
So sad to hear as a new Jag owner and longtime fan. I could see making options but to commit to toy cars only probably does not bode well for that revival they were hoping for. Heck do the sales even climb from this point fwd knowing they are turning away from your current purchase?
I won't quote/reply, but it always strikes me as surreal when someone ignores the facts that the literal market forces are moving en masse in their best interest, and don't care about your feelings. Then you go and blame some little girl? Just such a different way of perceiving the world than me, I don't even know what to say to that type of needlessly petty, and weirdly informed, behavior. I tried to let that comment stand. But it's like saying "I hate all the new safety rules of football so I blame the guy that is dealing with a concussion".
edit: New Climate Maps Show a Transformed United States https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/
The coming northern migration is going to be absolutely unreal. Anyhoo... I always think of when people's opinions buck facts, science, data, objective reality. Like pushing back against a tidal wave of truth. Must be tiring.
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Will Jaguar ever live down the Lucas years? I know that even now people people ask about the reliability of the Jaguar product. Honestly, I don't think it is all made up. I have experience with an XK-150, XK-8, and now the F-Type. The 150 had motor issues, the XK-8 was fine for many years, but at 15 years absolutely everything fell apart. The F-Type has had its share of warranty work. As automobiles become more complex, I think it is harder and harder for a relatively small manufacturer to keep up with the technological demands. But look at the clutch headaches with the MT cars. An automobile clutch does not represent the cutting edge of technology. Small manufacturers just have small resources. No one buys a Ferrari for the perfection of the body work. Maybe because they are small they can have a panache that the big boys don't.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - I have serious reservations about buying an EV from a company that can't resolve the issue where using the OBD port causes the battery to drain. I know OBD won't exactly be relevant in an EV but it just doesn't inspire confidence in their electrical engineers.
I have had three F-Types, a 2014, 2016 and now a 2020. I have yet to experience the battery drain mentioned by others, and my cars have often set in the garage for one or two weeks in the cold and rainy weather we've had this year. In fact my only problem has been a small leak in the rear dif on the 2016, which was handled under warranty.
I have had three F-Types, a 2014, 2016 and now a 2020. I have yet to experience the battery drain mentioned by others, and my cars have often set in the garage for one or two weeks in the cold and rainy weather we've had this year. In fact my only problem has been a small leak in the rear dif on the 2016, which was handled under warranty.
I've not needed a trickle charger, but I my previous "drain" issue was when I stuck my Waylens Dashcam OBD module into the port, it would trigger an electrical glitch that meant the car wouldn't fully power down. I think it was an interior LED and the Emergency symbol or something, and it would just slowly drain. Solution: none. Don't use the OBD. But the OBD module for my dashcam records SO MUCH COOL STUFF... it's disappointing. But in general, I don't think I've experienced any stand alone drain issues.
Since a lot of countries are banning the sale of new gasoline cars from 2025, or 2030, or whenever, it makes no sense for manufacturers to continue to make them. if you can't buy non-electric cars, what are you going to buy?
Cars made in 60s are still road-worthy. Banning ICE in 2030 will not be enough to get rid of ICE in our lifetime.
02-15-2021, 06:47 PM
Automotive electrics
