From a mechanical degradation perspective, absolutely not.

Depending on where you live, however, I imagine that it could get significantly more difficult/impractical to own and operate an ICE vehicle in my life (pollution/registration taxes, reduced fuel infrastructure/EV charge point conversions, cost of gas/ICE parts relating to economies of scale, fewer technicians trained/training to serve combustion motors, etc).

I don't think gas cars will be priced off the road just yet, although I'm sure that's where my home state of California is ultimately headed.

 

Uncle Fishbits remarks, to me, hit on all counts. His thoughts on car "values" are thought provoking; and include the dollar value and how cars are "valued" as consumer goods. As a lifetime car nut who has achieved peak car love with my F Type; my one test drive in a Model 3 made me much less afraid of the future than I once was. I think too, there's a great niche between standard brands and the true high end stuff...Volvo's starting to play that angle... If Jag plays its cards right and can create some passion and emotion behind the Leaper, there's no reason why the all electric strategy can't sustain it's future. My next new car will be electric, and I'm looking forward to the prospect -- hell, the new crop of electrics are really getting some exciting ideas going. But I can assure you my R will remain ready for the fun drives.

 

 

The "what is this car" subreddit is amazing. They got this within one minute and 30 seconds. I drove by this tonight, it's a Volvo variant called a pole star, and it's a plug-in hybrid Grand touring coupe. Aesthetics are completely personal but this struck my eye
might as well compare what is out there and what is coming to what Jaguar will be doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polestar_1

 

 

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I don't worship a 13 year old retarded brat either.

 

This thread went from 0-60 faster than most electric cars

Let's try to be civil, gentlemen

 

I'm at the age where I probably won't be around for the results of what we continue to do to the world. I'm a lifetime car nut from my '59 TR3A to my Ftype. I thought the Triumph was great fun and all I could handle on "Dead man's curve" after school. I could never imagine as well an engineered car as my SLK55, but it still had handling challenges some 50+ years later. The Polestar and Lucid and new Audi and Porsche sedans are far better than we could have hoped for. I can only hope that a way is found to keep the sport in sports cars as they are sold in very small numbers. And at a price people can justify. +1 to Uncle Fishbits.

 

That is a Polestar 1. Only 1500 will be built over three years, 500 per year. It costs $156K. I would love one if I could get one.

The design is roughly based on the Volvo S90 sedan, which I currently own and really enjoy.

 

That Polestar is a very attractive vehicle. I once suggested to Mr. Musk that I thought a Tesla Sport Coupe, a 4 seater about the size of the original Infiniti G35 Coupe would be a good seller. Something to compete with the BMW and Audi coupes that sold in the $60K range. I also told him that I thought a more conventional appearing instrument cluster around the steering wheel that displayed needed info and a smaller than laptop sized touchscreen on the console would appeal to more conservative drivers who want an EV but want the car to have a driver's experience more like they were used to.
He agreed that a Sport Coupe sounded cool but said that at the time, their market research pointed to their current offerings and a pickup truck. But if the Polestar is successful, maybe a similar Tesla will be on the market within a couple of years. It certainly appeals to me more than the Model S, Y, or 3.
Jaguar might also have some success with a "personal luxury car" category Sport Coupe with an electric drivetrain. Electric vehicles don't have to be ugly !

 

I love this. Some new moonshiners tuning the cars to escape the local law?

 

"Please don't feed the animals" LOL But thank you, and I am a bit obsessed with it. I've a couple friends with collections, one who has something like 60+ American classics including rare 1st vehicles Leno might have, early utilitarian vehicles like 1900s fire trucks and logging trucks, etc. I know there's a point where's it is Americana vs "just a car", but the 40s -60s stuff is aging out, and let alone gaskets blowing if you turn it on after just sitting there... who is the market? The baby boomers' wine cellars and garages are full, the Japanese import craze is legitimately catching everyone off guard... car collectors are acting to younger millennial interest like many of us act about EV. There's a wee bit of a panic out there as the new collectors are interested in the mid 80s cars they had posters of on their walls, Miami Vice and Magnum PI.

I truly fear a massive, MASSIVE glut in the car market of destabilized values of classic American vehicles up until muscle cars or so. Maybe the Chinese and Middle Eastern markets will find a home for a nostalgic yesteryear of car history, but man... The Nissan Skyline or the Buick Imperial? What's selling to a 39 year old tech guy who grew up on Fast and Furious? However, if things drop from millions into 100sK, people might pick up some fun cars that find a rational value vs the nostalgia of Silver Gen and their love for cars after the war, and the Boomers who grew up watching dad rub the car with a diaper. =)

That modern kid? He either loves those newer cars, or can't be bothered to pay attention what kind of car his uber is. A lack of interest in Americans, a lack of interest in cars, a diminishing market interest in combustible (so long term maintenance will become a pain in the ***), and shift to EV makes me baffled how these classics exist. Sadly, the best case scenario is to become museum pieces vs finding a track to loosen them up on. =(

 

Early Tesla stories will be very interesting to read. =) Did he name them so they spelled S 3 X Y ?
And I 100% got Teslas entry to market: flash for cash sports car, then functional high end Audi / BMW comp, then soccer mom, then everyman access to these luxurious trending vehicles. Quite well done.
I might look at a Tesla if there wasn't some distracting glowing screen. In the F-Type, the turning off of the screen is my favorite thing.... thank you for the instrument cluster direction. =)

Having randomly seen a Polestar last night, I will say it's the same vibe I got when i kept noticing our car on the road around 2014. I know the Polestar isn't that compelling, except the rear end is lovely, but something really struck a chord and I will probably be hovering around their delivery system on their site today, tho I've basically been out of work for a year. LOLOlololol ill advised.

 

If you like the rear of the Polestar 1 check out the Volvo S90. The rear is almost identical. It also costs a lot less. However the performance does not quite match the Polestar 1.

 

If only the Germans would realise that! MInd you, most of their ICE cars are ugly, too, so they're merely continuing that tradition.

 

It is interesting how the side profile of the Polestar Coupe is so similar to the Infiniti G35 Coupe. Looks just about right, although at $156K they won't find as many buyers as they would at half that price.
If it's successful, maybe Elon will have another thought about my suggestion from a few years ago.

 

I don't need the status symbol, and I don't need to engineer in a new fuel where I park, etc. I'm fine waiting on EVs, and my wife is in the market, so knowing that's the build/design inspiration is going to get us to the dealership. Funny, my car needs service and JLR dealer by me is also Volvo. =)

 

Yes, Yes he did. He originally had the four models as S, E, X, Y but Ford had already trademarked the E for their electric vehicles so he was forced to change it and chose to go with the III, when turned sideways, looks like an E.